Re: How will the police find me.

On 5/25/24 20:11, Andrew wrote:

  <https://www.google.com/search?q=us+census+accident+rate+statistics+by+year>

In order to have any meaningful correlation between cell phones in cars and their effect on accidents one would have to know how many of those cell phones were in use while driving and also the accident rate in those cars as compared to the others. Without this in the case of cell-phone correlation the supplied study provides just irrelevant statistical noise.

The rest was an hypothesis to potentially explain that unexpected fact.

So we went from scientific method and statistical data to hypothetical potentials. OK, I didn't lock in on that one, my bad :-)

BTW, how many accident participants will voluntarily
offer up the fact that they'd been on the phone just before?

 Guess what. The US census bureau statistics do NOT rely on that.
So it's a non sequitur what anyone "says" about the cause of the accident.

The cause of the accident is not likely to be recorded as having been cell-phone use unless someone fesses up to it. Accident investigation does not on one hand include automatic mandatory x-checking with the cell service providers and in many jurisdictions such would not even be permitted on the other. I've done accident investigation in three areas of activity and am of the opinion that quite a few reports are misleading and not only accidentaly so ..for any number of reasons.

The actual accidents are reportable in all fifty states.

Sidebar: is this comp.mobile.android or comp.mobile.android.us?

Right, so
much for statistics which according to one prof. "is the science whereby
one can prove anything, or its exact opposite".

 Nobody but you said that anyone said anything after the
accident. They could have had the accident for any number of reasons.

I never said that anyone said anything. What I thought to have alluded to rather unequivocally was that IF someone had used a phone and knew that that use had lead up to the accident then that person would not likely volunteer that information. This may soon become unnecessary anyway with the onset of AI helping cops catch offenders given that it has the speed to analyse cell traffic around and entire block for instance and alert the cop waiting at the intersection "green Honda arriving from South leg in 45 seconds was on line while in motion for the last ten and a half minutes". Once the pull-over happens all the data is already printed on the ticket.
And although this thread is already way off-topic, one more tidbit: accident prevention depends on defensive legislation AND defensive driving. It is not at all necessary for a lawmaker to KNOW that a scientific correlation exsist between cell use and accidents, it is more important to act with prejudice and watch for what, cell-phones included, MIGHT cause an accident. The way to legislate is the way that I have driven over a million clicks with no accident, if anyone wants to argue with that, go for it.
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All species of mobile phones, media devices, Bluetooth or not, and onboard presentation systems beyond what is essential for vehicle control should automatically disable themselves within 10 meters of any vehicle in motion at any speed. "Hands-Free does NOT mean Brain-Free". In the case of approaching vehicles (pedestrian use included) that distance should be multiplied (prorated) for every 5km/h of CLOSURE speed (i.e. no such device should be operable within 200 meters of any vehicle approaching at 100 km/h). Manufacturers of devices in which such an automatic lockout feature is missing or can be disabled should first pay large fines and then be barred from the jurisdiction market. With respect to other road-hog conduct, in addition to intoxication or attention-diverting use of lethal-technology while driving, brake-checking and tailgating should also be HANGING crimes. Any irresponsible vehicle handling should in fact be punished exactly as it would be in the case of irresponsible weapons handling (which ALSO needs to be beefed up exponentially).