Re: Mobile banking: alarm as fraudsters take over handsets and raid accounts

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Sujet : Re: Mobile banking: alarm as fraudsters take over handsets and raid accounts
De : ithinkiam (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris)
Groupes : comp.mobile.android uk.telecom.mobile
Date : 14. Jul 2024, 23:16:54
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AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2024 12:54 PM, Chris wrote:
AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2024 2:24 AM, Chris wrote:
AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
 
Mine [bank apps] don't offer pin capability but do require long
passwords using all types of characters.
 
That's sounds like a PITA.
 
PITA? Not for me. Because I'm one of those paranoid folks who don't
keep any banking (or investment) apps on my phone for security
reasons.
 
The topic is mobile banking...
 
And my sentence above DOES refer to mobile banking. The lack of it for
security reasons. If you're going to play on topic cop

Who's playing cop? I was simply reminding you of the context hence why I
thought your response was a PITA in the context of mobile phones.

As far a pin vs password I find passwords easier. That's because I
use a formula for each site. Something like $ + my first employee
number + first 3 letters of site/app name + my second employee
number + next 2 letters of the site/app name + the number 13. This
is just an example and it can give me a 15+ character password that
I can easily remember and type in in a just few seconds.
 
Some sites don't accept passwords longer than 8 or 9 chars and/or no
special character. What do you do then?
 
As I said, the above formula is just an example. It can be adjusted to
work with any site.

Not IME. Many sites have mutually exclusive rules.

I gave up years ago and have a password manager.
Much easier. Only one password to remember.
 
Sounds scary. Google "password manager dangers". Some results:
 
"The same thing that makes password managers so convenient for you—all
your passwords are easily accessible in one spot—also represents the
greatest risk. If your personal device is infected with malware, then
cybercriminals can steal your master password and take control of your
vault."

Obviously google is going to return you worst case scenarios.

The reality is that weak passwords are a far higher risk for most people
which a password manager resolves.

I now can have 50 character passwords for places which accept them and 8
character ones for others.

"While LifeLock has had several other issues over the years, in December
2022, LifeLock revealed that it had experienced a data breach resulting
in more than 6,000 of its customers losing access to their password
managers. Hackers had used a technique known as “credential stuffing” to
take control of these customers"

Use a decentralised manager where you are the only person in possession of
your vault, where it's stored and the master password.

"Password manager programs are a target for hackers. It's not easy to
login using multiple devices. If the main password is used/typed/saved
on a computer with malware, your main password can compromise all your
other passwords controlled by the PM"

There'sa big if there. That's why things like FaceID and TouchID help. You
don't type the master password.




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