Re: RCS is not more private and secure than texting according to the FBI

On 2024-12-25 18:19, Arno Welzel wrote:

Carlos E.R., 2024-12-24 14:02:
 

On 2024-12-24 13:38, Arno Welzel wrote:

Jörg Lorenz, 2024-12-24 07:11:
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On 24.12.24 04:16, Arno Welzel wrote:

Jörg Lorenz, 2024-12-22 16:58:
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On 22.12.24 16:50, s|b wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:35:16 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
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On the other hand - messengers with end-to-end-encryption for iOS and
Android exist.

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<https://signal.org/>

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Signal and Threema: https://threema.ch/en
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Threema is the only messenger being accepted for public institutions in
Switzerland. Particularly for law enforcement, military use and public
education.

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Of course - Threema is provided by a Swiss company.

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Idiot. Merry Christmas.

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Huh? <https://threema.ch> is not located in Switzerland? Or what do you
mean?

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That you are implying that the Swiss use Threema simply because it is
Swiss made, not because it is the only one that passed their security
and privacy tests.

 Well - "Swiss made" also means, they know the requirements for Swiss
public institutions better then companies from the US or other
countries. And even when companies from other countries provide the same
level of security and privacy - still a Swiss company would be
preferrable for Swiss public institutions, don't you think so?

No.

Signal or Matrix are not worse in this matter - but they are not Swiss
companies.

No, this is not correct. In the subject of privacy and security, they are worse. At least Signal.
It really is not about being Swiss.
For example:
An end-to-end encryption is used to ensure the confidentiality of WhatsApp. However, until recently, the automatic backup of the chats did not offer the same security, according to a statement by the SNSF. This is because the personal key to the data stored in the cloud was known to the company.Jul 30, 2023
WhatsApp security test identifies weakness - SWI swissinfo.ch
<https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/whatsapp-security-test-identifies-weakness/48699806>
<https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rzjl7i/swiss_army_bans_whatsapp_telegram_and_signal_due/>
"Threema relies on its own servers in Switzerland, while Signal uses US companies like Amazon and Google. So if you want to use a service whose servers are located in Europe, Threema does seem to be the only game in town. By the way, Threema is also subject to jurisdiction in Switzerland, and unlike Signal, the Swiss also complies with the provisions of the European General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)."

 Also see: <https://element.io/case-studies/tchap>

Ah, didn't know tchap. Yes, it is the same basic problem.

 

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Cheers, Carlos.