Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"

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Sujet : Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"
De : this (at) *nospam* ddress.is.invalid (Frank Slootweg)
Groupes : uk.telecom.mobile comp.mobile.android
Date : 04. Mar 2025, 17:22:52
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Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
On 3/4/2025 3:13 AM, Chris wrote:
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

[Much uniformed, misguided, FUD, scare mongering, etc. deleted.]

   2FA is not a security improvement. It's a gimmick to enable
far more exptensive tracking of people by linking phone ID and
location to other data.
 
Your paranoia is clouding your judgement.
 
   Famous last words of the ostrich. The whole point of this
thread is about a man who got SIM swapped and lost 40K
pounds! Your neighbor has just been eaten by a lion. Keeping
his head in a hole didn't protect him. What a shocker!

  Nope, the man lost 40K pounds, because two companies (EDF and O2)
fscked up their security procedures.

  Insult was added to injury, by the fact that his savings account was
apparently only protected by a password, i.e. the kind of weak/no
'security' *you* are actually advocating. Had this been protected by 2FA
(not SMS, which is not 2FA, but (weak) 2SV), he would have lost nothing.

  In addition to (real) 2FA, our (NL) bank accounts, especially the
savings accounts can be further protected by a time-locked and maximum
amount at a time. There hardly ever is a need to make a 40K pound
transfer without advance notice.

  Bottom line: Yes, shitty security/security-procedures get people into
trouble. News at eleven!

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Mar 25 * "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"123Java Jive
3 Mar 25 +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"4Newyana2
3 Mar 25 i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3David Rance
3 Mar 25 i `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Java Jive
3 Mar 25 i  `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1David Rance
3 Mar 25 +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Nick Finnigan
3 Mar 25 +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"68Andy Burns
3 Mar 25 i+- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1AJL
3 Mar 25 i+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"58Newyana2
3 Mar 25 ii+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Andy Burns
3 Mar 25 iii`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
3 Mar 25 ii+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"13Carlos E.R.
3 Mar 25 iii+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3Newyana2
4 Mar 25 iiii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Carlos E.R.
4 Mar 25 iiii `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Chris
3 Mar 25 iii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"9AJL
4 Mar 25 iii +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Carlos E.R.
4 Mar 25 iii i`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1AJL
4 Mar 25 iii +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"5Andy Burns
4 Mar 25 iii i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"4AJL
4 Mar 25 iii i `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3Frank Slootweg
4 Mar 25 iii i  `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2AJL
4 Mar 25 iii i   `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
4 Mar 25 iii `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
3 Mar 25 ii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"42Chris
3 Mar 25 ii `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"41Newyana2
4 Mar 25 ii  `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"40Chris
4 Mar 25 ii   `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"39Newyana2
4 Mar 25 ii    +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
4 Mar 25 ii    `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"37Chris
5 Mar 25 ii     +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"30Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     i+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3Chris
5 Mar 25 ii     ii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     ii `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Chris
5 Mar 25 ii     i+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"25David Wade
5 Mar 25 ii     ii+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"18Carlos E.R.
5 Mar 25 ii     iii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"17Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     iii +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"14Abandoned Trolley
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"13Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"11Abandoned Trolley
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i  `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"10Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"5Andy Burns
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"4Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   i +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1David Wade
6 Mar 25 ii     iii i   i `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Frank Slootweg
6 Mar 25 ii     iii i   i  `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3Abandoned Trolley
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   i `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Abandoned Trolley
5 Mar 25 ii     iii i   `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii     iii `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2David Wade
5 Mar 25 ii     iii  `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
5 Mar 25 ii     ii+- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Newyana2
5 Mar 25 ii     ii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"5Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii     ii `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"4David Wade
5 Mar 25 ii     ii  +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Abandoned Trolley
5 Mar 25 ii     ii  i`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1David Wade
5 Mar 25 ii     ii  `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii     i`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii     `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"6Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii      `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"5Carlos E.R.
5 Mar 25 ii       +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Theo
5 Mar 25 ii       i`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Chris
5 Mar 25 ii       `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Frank Slootweg
5 Mar 25 ii        `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
3 Mar 25 i+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"7Chris
3 Mar 25 ii+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3Andy Burns
3 Mar 25 iii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Carlos E.R.
3 Mar 25 iii `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Andy Burns
3 Mar 25 ii+- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
3 Mar 25 ii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Andy Burns
4 Mar 25 ii `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Chris
3 Mar 25 i`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
6 Mar 25 `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"49Brian Gregory
6 Mar 25  `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"48Java Jive
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6 Mar 25   +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"9Newyana2
6 Mar 25   i+* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3AJL
7 Mar 25   ii`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Newyana2
7 Mar 25   ii `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1AJL
6 Mar 25   i+- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Frank Slootweg
6 Mar 25   i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"4Carlos E.R.
7 Mar 25   i `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"3Newyana2
7 Mar 25   i  +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
8 Mar 25   i  `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Chris
6 Mar 25   `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"37Brian Gregory
6 Mar 25    `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"36Java Jive
7 Mar 25     +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"2Chris
7 Mar 25     i`- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Carlos E.R.
7 Mar 25     `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"33Java Jive
7 Mar 25      `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"32Newyana2
7 Mar 25       +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Nick Finnigan
7 Mar 25       +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Andy Burns
14 Mar 25       `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"29Theo
15 Mar 25        +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Nick Finnigan
15 Mar 25        +* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"26Java Jive
15 Mar 25        i`* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"25Newyana2
15 Mar 25        i `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"24Java Jive
15 Mar 25        i  +- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Theo
16 Mar 25        i  `* Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"22Newyana2
15 Mar 25        `- Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"1Newyana2

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