Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"

On 05/03/2025 17:37, Newyana2 wrote:

On 3/5/2025 12:21 PM, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

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I "snipped out" the rest of your description of rapid change (whatever that is) in the hope that somebody might clarify the claim that "Apple invented computer cellphones in 2008"
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    Is that wrong? I just looked it up. It was actually 2007.
Was there another computer cellphone before that? I'm
not aware of any. There were cellphones that could make
phone calls. But there were not apps, browsers, and so on,
as far as I know. I welcome correction if I'm mistaken.
    In other words, people could make phone calls on wireless
phones back in the 80s. But the cellphone lifestyle of banking,
shopping, getting directions, texting, etc is fairly recent.
(Remember that there's also the lag between when iPhone
came out and when computer cellphones became ubiquitous.)
 

That assumes that the only definition of a computer cellphone is your definition.
I believe that web browsing and email applications were available on some handsets using GPRS / WAP - before wifi standards were established (and before CSS got sorted out)
Lots of old Nokia handsets had gaming applications and other utilities like alarm clock / calendar /calculator etc
"texting, etc" is NOT fairly recent - I think it came in with release 2 of GSM in the early 90s.
NTT DoCoMo introduced iMode in Japan some time in the late 90s - which provided a browsing service and some multi user games, along with text chatting and possibly some sort of press to talk facility.
i-Mode users also have access to other various services such as: sports results, weather forecasts, games, financial services, and ticket booking.
The Blackberry Messenger platform provided a global text service based on the PIN of the individual handset - regardless of location or network operator
Basically, the Apple / Android "axis of evil" may not be the only gig in town - and I dont think it was the first