Re: "'Scammers stole £40k after EDF gave out my number"

On 2025-03-16 03:30, Newyana2 wrote:

On 3/15/2025 1:53 PM, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-03-15 12:35, Newyana2 wrote:

On 3/15/2025 7:46 AM, Java Jive wrote:

On 2025-03-14 18:49, Theo wrote:

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Speculating, I would guess they started with the SIM swap.

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The original report suggests that they started with an email hack, and used that to facilitate the SIM swap.

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   That's not what it said.

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Look back directly up thread to my post of 2025-03-06 19:53, where I quote the single sentence in the original report that stated that an email hack had occurred before the SIM-swap scam was done.
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  You read it wrong.
 "O2 Virgin Media confirmed the scammer telephoned its call centre requesting a new Sim and had hacked Stephen's emails."
    Both things happened. Nowhere does it say or imply that
hacking the email preceded the SIM swap. That wouldn't
make sense.

It makes perfect sense, what you are claiming makes no sense, and shows that you have lost the chronological sequence of events.  For one thing, the use of the word 'had' implies that the hack was already in place at the time of scammer's phone call, otherwise they would have said something like "... and hacked ..." or "... used it to hack ..." or "... and went on to hack ...".  Further, if you reread the original report in its entirety, how would he have persuaded EDF to give up the victim's mobile number without personal identifying information that came from access to his emails?  Next, how would he have been able to confirm the request for a replacement SIM without being able to reply to the confirmatory email?
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