Re: Shutdown vs. Restart

On 3/27/2025 5:39 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:

My Windows 11 setup does *not* have "hibernate" in the power menu. So
you are wrong as well now? Or did you just forgot, that the choices also
depend on settings?
 I talked about the *default* setup of Windows nowadays which is "Fast
Startup". And in this *default* case Windows behaves as described since
the previous poster believed, that "shutdown" will always shutdown
without hibernation and "reboot" will restore the state as it was before
the reboot.
 

This is getting to be one of those threads that becomes
clear as mud the longer it goes on. Some basic facts:
Fast startup is a version of Hibernate and uses the same
hiberfil.sys file. There are various reasons not to enable it -
* There are risks when using disk imaging.
* Updates might not install properly.
* Multibooting can be a problem, with a risk of file corruption.
* Windows will lock the disk, blocking access from other OSs.
* BIOS may not be accessible, depending on hardware.
* For anyone with an SSD, fast startup will have little if any
benefit in terms of speed.
* Fast startup could cause corruption if you unplug your
computer.
* Depending on hardware, there could be problems like
unrecognized hardware, unseen USB sticks when plugged
in, etc.
   If you're impatient by nature, don't dual-boot, have a newer
computer, don't use disk imaging and have an HDD, fast startup
may be a nice convenience. Otherwise, it's probably not worth
the risks. By disabling Hibernate one can prevent that whole
process, eliminate the bloat of hiberfil.sys, and use Sleep when
wanting to put the computer in some kind of standby mode.
   For me, with a moderately powered Win10 on an SSD, and a
modest (by current standards) i5-12400, cold boot takes maybe
30 seconds tops. (I use a BIOS password and multi-boot menu,
so I'm never just starting Windows.) Waking from Sleep is
pretty much instant, though I also have to hit the spacebar and
Enter in order to get past login. (I haven't found any method to
tell Windows that I don't want to log in. Windows NT is simply
not designed for single-user operation.)
    In the case of Android, I'm still not clear about how many
Android or Apple cellphones can be fully turned off. I know that my
TCL TracFone can be easily powered off by holding down the power
button to get the shutdown menu. I know that the woman I live
with has a newer phone that can be fully powered off but requires
more work to do so.