Re: Unusable Android J5(6)

R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:

Frank,
 

Please *read* my response to J?rg [1], including me pointing to
the specific part of J?rg's reference.
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To do a 'Hard reset' ('Wipe data/factory reset'), *you only need
to push/use the (physical) buttons on the device.

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I suggest you read your indicated message yourself, and point out (quote)
where you said that last bit.  Good luck. :-)

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Kiddo' :-), don't be a wise guy! I said, what I said I said.
"that last bit" is in J?rg's reference, not in my text, so I
*can't* quote"where I said that", because *I* didn't say it!

 
Frank, "kiddo", don't be an idiot.  You gave me a reference to a particular
message from your own hand, and from it I copied the above first quote.
Trying to deny that doesn't work.

  Earth to Rudy: In that quote, I say "including me pointing to the
specific part of Jörg's reference.", so I *pointed to* Jörg's reference
and the hence the 'proof' you're looking for is *in that reference*,
*not* in *my* text. Capice?

So again, show me where you told me where you told me that I should use a
particular physical button combination to get at that "hard reset"

  Indirectly in that/my article (and later several times directly).

  Don't blame me if you can't/won't/don't/<whatever> follow references/
directions.

Also, you still owe me a reference to where you have pointed me to "the
specific part" of jorgs reference.   I read that message of yours to jorg,
and could not find what yoyu clam is there.  Your refusal to reference/quote
it makes me think you figured out it wasn't actually there, and you are now
trying to bluff your way out of it.

  I don't owe you anything. If anything, you owe me/us an apology for
acting like an ungrateful, obnoxious, pompous twat.

  But, because I don't understand you don't get it, I read "that message
of yours to jorg" again and the 'proof' you demand is of course there.
In the very first paragraph, with your name in it.

  And to be clear, because you keep snipping the MIDs which I gave and I
gave serveral MIDs in my responses to you, "that message of yours to
jorg" is still, what it always was:
Message-ID: <1002fm6.172c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

  And please, don't snip it this time.

Is that clear enough for you ?

  Yes, I can read for comprehension. You OTOH, ...

And by the way, that special buttons trick doesn't seem to want to
work here.

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I've addressed that issue in another response:

 
Which I already have responded to.

  Yes, our posts crossed in cyberspace.

Also it's press and *hold*, till the device boots and in my
experience it can be more than "a few seconds" and IME the
sequence can be relevant, i.e. not volume-<down or up> and
then power, but power and then volume-<down or up>. IOW,
keep trying.

 
Maybe I need to press all of them and release them in a certain order and at
specific times when the first text is displayed ?  Maybe I need to re-press
them too ?  Maybe I should only *start* pressing them when the logo appears
?

  You need to release them when the desired (i.e. Recovery) screen
appears. If that does not appear, but you get a normal *Android* screen,
the trick failed and you might as well release the buttons as well.
 

IOW, *way* to many possibilities - and thats assuming that thay special
screen containing the "hard reset" option actually exists.

  Yes, the trick is not easy and we can only go by what all the phones
we have can. For this phone, we can't be sure and have to go by what
webpages say (now you know what you're looking for, you could do a
specific search for this phone). It's not likely that someone in the
audience has the exact same phone.