Re: Canta and Shizuku

On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 12:54:33 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :

Anssi Saari,
>

So what's the point of this debloating then?

>
Less spyware ?   Less (useless) notifications ?  Less advertisements ?  Less
"invitations" to subscribe to stuff you don't need ?  A longer battery life
?
>

 
...and less "easter eggs", less "chrome" (if you"re using another
  browser), less google play store (if you prefer f-droid, Aurora
  or App Finder), less fm radio (never been working!)... Less
  software to update ...and less pc as long as you can debloat all
  of these directly via smartphone.
 
Most of all, you get that nice feeling... Kind of freedom in your
  choices.
:-)

 
Last time I wanted to uninstall some nuisance apps that were installed
on factory, I could not, but I could disable them. That is enough for me.

I will agree with anyone who makes a sensible statement and yet, I'll
disagree with anyone who doesn't understand the point of debloating.

To that end, I thank Qihe for testing out Shizuku wireless-debugging (which
I had given up on when I couldn't get my split screen to work right). And I
thank Qihe for testing Canta (which I didn't test) and to the point of this
sub thread, I fully agree with Qihe there is a "nice feeling" to have
control over your Android that perhaps Google & the OEM and the Carrier
might not want you to have (e.g., remove carrier-inserted advertisements).

I also agree with Rudy, which, if you know me and Rudy, we're oil and water
different, but I agree with anyone who makes a sensibly logical statement.

In my case, removing the T-Mobile "diagnostic" apps wipes out T-Mobile
spyware, and removing the T-Mobile Sliide "feature" gives me fewer
"invitations" and no advertisements, and removal of pre-installed bloatware
can only be good - there is no downside - in terms of reliability and
battery life.

With respect to Carlos' point, I've rarely had issues uninstalling
bloatware using adb - but if he's only using the Android SETTINGS GUI, he's
gonna have more problems. Even so, in agreement with Carlos, some bloatware
can't be uninstalled easily even with adb so it has to be stopped and/or
disabled instead.

Meanwhile, that exact problem set is the whole point of Canta/Shizuku!

I thank Jeff for opening this thread because it allows all of us to learn
from each other - which is - after all - the whole point of Usenet.

Next time I need to debloat, I'm going to use ADB with Shizuku.
But for now, I'm already debloated with adb.

In summary, to answer the question from Anssi Saari, there are a million
GOOD REASONS for debloating, and, well, I can't think of a single bad one.