Re: My week with Linux: I'm dumping Windows for Ubuntu to see how it goes

On Sat, 5/17/2025 8:59 PM, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

W dniu 18.05.2025 o 02:05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro pisze:

On Sun, 18 May 2025 01:38:53 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
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Chromium is snap only pakcage without any control over its sandbox.

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Not on Debian and derivatives, it isn’t: it’s a package in the standard
repo.

 
At my Kubuntu 20.04 I have this info:
 
$ apt info chromium-browser -a
Package: chromium-browser
Version: 1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu0.20.04.3
Priority: optional
Section: universe/web
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 165 kB
Provides: gnome-www-browser, www-browser, x-www-browser
Pre-Depends: debconf, snapd
Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0
Homepage: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/
Download-Size: 48,5 kB
APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/universe amd64 Packages
Description: Transitional package - chromium-browser -> chromium snap
 Jest to przejściowy pakiet atrapa. Może być bezpiecznie usunięty.
 .
 chromium-browser is now replaced by the chromium snap.
 
Package: chromium-browser
Version: 80.0.3987.163-0ubuntu1
Priority: optional
Section: universe/web
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 164 kB
Provides: www-browser
Pre-Depends: debconf, snapd
Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0
Homepage: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/
Download-Size: 48,3 kB
APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages
Description: Transitional package - chromium-browser -> chromium snap
 Jest to przejściowy pakiet atrapa. Może być bezpiecznie usunięty.
 .
 chromium-browser is now replaced by the chromium snap.
 
 
For your convenience:
 
$ trans pl:en 'Jest to przejściowy pakiet atrapa. Może być bezpiecznie usunięty.'
Jest to przejściowy pakiet atrapa.  Może być bezpiecznie usunięty.
 
This is a temporary dummy package. It can be safely removed.
 
 
Note also this:
 
$ sudo apt install chromium-browser
Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
Budowanie drzewa zależności
Odczyt informacji o stanie... Gotowe
The following additional packages will be installed:
  snapd
Zostaną zainstalowane następujące NOWE pakiety:
  chromium-browser snapd
0 aktualizowanych, 2 nowo instalowanych, 0 usuwanych i 89 nieaktualizowanych.
Konieczne pobranie 26,2 MB archiwów.
Po tej operacji zostanie dodatkowo użyte 110 MB miejsca na dysku.
Kontynuować? [T/n]
 
So on my Kubuntu 20.04 it want to install Chromium from snap.

apt info chromium-browser
apt info chromium

One of them is SNAP, one is .deb .

They are unlikely to stay in the tree that
way forever, but for a limited time, depending
on the distro, you may be able to select the one
you really wanted.

Thunderbird might have been available in two formats
for a time, but apparently recently they got rid
of the person doing the .deb one.

You have to look carefully at the goods offered,
to figure out what your options are.

LMDE6 exists for a reason. That's what happens when
other options become "un-tenable". Nothing lasts
forever in this world.

   Paul