Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill

On Mon, 7/7/2025 3:26 PM, Joel wrote:

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 03:30 this Thursday (GMT):

On Thu,  3 Jul 2025 05:09:33 +0200 (CEST), Dan wrote:
>

Windows enables working efficiently and saves time.  Linux devours time
attempting to perform the same tasks Windows does.

>
What we find here is the opposite: Linux offers the tools to automate
common tasks, Windows forces you to jump through hoops. Open-source tools
are designed to empower you, not hold you back, while proprietary software
is designed to maximize the vendor’s revenue opportunity, by restricting
features.
>
Look in particular at all the effort going into trying to figure out how
to run Windows 11 on hardware that Microsoft will not officially support.

>
It's always going to be impossible (or at least way way more difficult)
to automate a GUI.

 
 
Microsoft, through the widespread use of Windows 11 with "Copilot+"
turned on, has made it as easy as ordering around Copilot to load the
apps one wants loaded - being an AI slave master, and not compliant
with ethics on use of AI.
 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/getting-started-with-copilot-on-windows-1159c61f-86c3-4755-bf83-7fbff7e0982d

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/using-copilot-vision-with-microsoft-copilot-3c67686f-fa97-40f6-8a3e-0e45265d425f

   "When using Vision, only Copilot’s responses are logged to enable monitoring
    of unsafe interactions and outputs. User inputs, images, and page content
    are not logged or stored.  Once the Voice session ends, this data is deleted.

    Vision does not engage directly with the web on your behalf - it is there to
    answer questions rather than take actions. Copilot Vision may highlight
    portions of the screen to help you find relevant information. It will
    not click, enter text, or scroll on your behalf.

    Vision is not available to users signed into Copilot or Edge with a work or school account.
   "

   "Using Copilot on Windows, you can let Vision see browser windows or apps
    you have open on your screen. Copilot Vision can then answer questions or
    help you do something step by step.

    Copilot Vision works with any app on Windows. However, if the content
    includes harmful or DRM-protected material, Copilot will not be able to analyze it.

    Copilot Vision on Windows is currently available in the US only through
    the Copilot on Windows app.
   "

Wow. And/or Exciting.

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https://www.functionize.com/automated-testing/gui-testing-tools

   "8. eggPlant UI Automation Testing

       eggPlant is a GUI testing tool that supports a wide range of applications,
       including web, mobile, and desktop.

       It uses image-based testing to automate the testing process,
       which allows for more accurate and reliable testing.

       Drawbacks

       No Free Version is Available
   "

I doubt that list is even remotely complete.

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Now that Wayland is present, we will need to rewrite XEV and XSE.
XSE is X11 Send Event.

    Paul