Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : commodorejohn (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John Ames)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 13. Feb 2025, 17:03:00
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:41:23 -0500
"WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

As for including type info - limits and more - the effective overhead
in these days of gigabit flow and GHz multicore chips is negligible.
As such I'd say to include it one way or another.

Again, if you want to argue for the safety of enforced bounds-checking
being worth the trade-off in performance, I'm willing to entertain that
argument, even if I only situationally agree. Lots of languages have
chosen to make that trade, and more power to 'em.

But what remains absolutely - and, AFAIK, uniquely - *demented* is for
a language to specify that *two arrays of different sizes are different
types of entity,* even if their elements are identically-typed.

There is *no* reason that I can see to do this. A language that forgoes
bounds-checking entirely gains some performance, at the cost of safety;
a language that includes bounds info as part of the array's structure
gains safety and convenience at the cost of some performance. Pascal,
on the other hand, gets no performance advantage, while burdening the
programmer with all the bookkeeping that is *necessary* for safety in
languages like C, even though it keeps all the information needed to
provide a less burdensome, more convenient alternative. Truly deranged.


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26 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC147John Ames
26 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC134Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC133John Ames
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27 Dec 24  ii ii +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
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29 Dec 24  ii i  i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118-hh
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29 Dec 24  ii i  i  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11-hh
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27 Dec 24  i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11RonB
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27 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1628Farley Flud
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28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119Farley Flud
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29 Dec 24  i ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19186282@ud0s4.net
29 Dec 24  i ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16D
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30 Dec 24  i ii ii`- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)1rbowman
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31 Dec 24  i ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12186282@ud0s4.net
31 Dec 24  i ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
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28 Dec 24  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lem Novantotto
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29 Dec 24  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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30 Dec 24  i i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1426D
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
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31 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1423D
1 Jan 25  i i   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i   i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
1 Jan 25  i i   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1420D
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4 Jan 25  i i    ii    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
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2 Jan 25  i i    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
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2 Jan 25  i i    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
29 Dec 24  i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1179-hh
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