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Sujet : Re: Lunduke's video on this latest issue
De : ronb02NOSPAM (at) *nospam* gmail.com (RonB)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 18. Oct 2024, 08:29:49
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On 2024-10-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Le 2024-10-17 à 02 h 52, RonB a écrit :
On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
once and for all.
>
Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>
I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
in an effort to make their lives less miserable.
 
The full fourth amendment...
 
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
    and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
    violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
    by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
    searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
Perhaps Lawrence would like to review implications of that amendment.
Definitely rules out surveillance without probable cause — and without an
oath or affirmation, SPECIFICALLY describing the place, person and things to
be seized.
 
So, yes, law abiding citizens of the United States do have the right to
privacy, guaranteed in the Constitution.
>
I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For
example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household
conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be
to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit. Despite that, people
buy the product and put it in their homes because it somehow makes life
more exciting for them. If I not mistaken, the Fourth Amendment only
protects you against an outsider setting such equipment up in your house
without your permission and if you are not part of an investigation.

I don't allow Alexa or Google... whatever... in my house. For a while one of
my wife's relatives wanted to run pictures of the extended family
continually through our living room TV, using the Google version of Alexa. I
kept unplugging it and they finally gave up and took the damn thing away. I
didn't even know that's what they were using for the "slide show" that until
I started to play music on my Android phone, and it wanted to broadcast it
on the Google Alexa thing. That's when I started unplugging it.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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