Re: The Joy Of Democracy

On 2024-10-24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:03:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
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On 2024-10-24 1:35 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:53:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
 

If the people in those "large cities" do not receive food, what will
happen to them?

 
They won’t be able to make the machines that the farmers use to farm
their crops. There would be no electricity generation or fuel supply,
no manufacturing of farmhouses, no laying of roads for the trucks to
supply feed and fertilizer and seed and take away produce. Nobody to
pay the farmers. Nobody to educate them on how to grow their crops.
 
The whole system collapses.

 
City people don't have a monopoly on he production of machines.

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Machines, including farming machines, are complicated things. Most of the
modern ones need to be built with the help of other machines. There need
to be support machines for transport (of raw materials, workers, finished
products), fuelling, communications etc. And for keeping track of orders
and shipments and payments and all that. This is why you don’t see big
factories out in the middle of corn fields.

And these machines that make machines aren't made in the cities. When you
don't what the hell you're talking about, maybe you should just slink away
and lick your wounds.

Anyway, getting back to the point: why should the value of your vote
depend on where you live? If you believe that all your citizens are
“created equal”, then shouldn’t their votes count equally, too?

Because it's done on a state by state level and the votes are equal in each
state. And the only reason the Electoral College is not completely equal is
that each state gets two electoral votes, one for each Senator. But many
states have only one or two Electoral votes based on their representation in
the House. So New York has 30 Electoral votes. Vermont, Delaware, Wyoming,
North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, West Virginia, Rhode Island and New
Hampshire (all together) have 30 votes. That's nine states out 50 who have
the influence in the presidential race as one state, New York. This is your
"outsize" advantage? You're clueless. Stick to what you know. I wouldn't
lecture on the stupidity of the government of New Zealand. Stick your nose
in your own business.

BTW, you've been told over and over again why the Electoral College is set
up the way it is. Quit droning on like a broken record about it.

If Trump wins, he'll probalby win both the popular vote and the electoral
vote anyhow. Than what are you going to whine aobut? You don't change the
rules midstream.

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