Re: Two points

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Date : 02. Dec 2024, 14:01:15
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On 12/2/24 12:44 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 21:47:59 -0500, -hh wrote:
 
On 12/1/24 7:43 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:29:48 -0500, -hh wrote:
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On 11/29/24 4:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
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On 29 Nov 2024 14:52:53 GMT, vallor wrote:
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2) I own two Mac mini's, which are sitting in a drawer.  They were
made from notebook equipment, and they are crap.
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Since they switched to ARM, everything named “Mac” from Apple is now
a glorified notebook anyway.
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Which makes it sound like notebooks haven't advanced in the past 20
years to be as powerful as many desktops.
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They are fundamentally compromised just from the form factor.
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Your opinion doesn't really matter, because Free Market decided a long
time ago that notebooks had passed the 'Good Enough' test ...
 I’m sure the market likes them a lot, but the market cannot change the
laws of physics either: I can always do more with the resources of a
desktop than I can with an equivalently-specced laptop, if I don’t need
the mobility of the latter.
 
First, it's not you, but the user's workflow which determines what the
sustained load may be.
 I do content creation a fair bit.
Everyone does content creation, even if its just text for a USENET post.   That creation has been the same since a 1200 baud VT100 40 years ago.
So if you're going to posture that you need moar power, what's the content that's allegedly your stressor?  And what tools do you use to objectively evaluate and compare different hardware/software solutions to know that you're not sucking on snake oil?
For example, if your content is video, is it 1080p?  Or 4K?  Or 6K?  Or 8K ProRes 422 HQ?  For benchmarking tools, are you using Cinebench, or the Blackmagic test Apps (disk speed, RAW speed)?  If not, why not because these are free downloads.
Case in point, some "notebook" CPUs:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/17pge6k/m1m3_cpu_performance_chart_using_cinebench_r23/>

Sure, most users aren’t doing that. Most
users don’t need workstations, either.
Precisely why I noted that performance levels of even today's notebooks have passed the 'Good Enough' test...
... and just because you have some workflow which allegedly stresses State of the Shelf doesn't mean that you're representative of the mainstream: it means that you're a minority niche.
-hh

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Nov 24 * Two points26vallor
29 Nov 24 +- Re: Two points1Joel
29 Nov 24 `* Re: Two points24Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Dec 24  +* Re: Two points20-hh
2 Dec 24  i`* Re: Two points19Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Dec 24  i +* Re: Two points17-hh
2 Dec 24  i i`* Re: Two points16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Dec 24  i i +* Re: Two points2rbowman
2 Dec 24  i i i`- Re: Two points1Joel
2 Dec 24  i i `* Re: Two points13-hh
3 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: Two points12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24  i i   +* Re: Two points7-hh
3 Dec 24  i i   i`* Re: Two points6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24  i i   i `* Re: Two points5-hh
3 Dec 24  i i   i  `* Re: Two points4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24  i i   i   `* Re: Two points3-hh
5 Dec 24  i i   i    `* Re: Two points2DFS
5 Dec 24  i i   i     `- Re: Two points1-hh
3 Dec 24  i i   `* Re: Two points4candycanearter07
3 Dec 24  i i    `* Re: Two points3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24  i i     +- Re: Two points1DFS
3 Dec 24  i i     `- Re: Two points1candycanearter07
2 Dec 24  i `- Re: Two points1Joel
2 Dec 24  `* Re: Two points3vallor
2 Dec 24   +- Re: Two points1rbowman
3 Dec 24   `- Re: Two points1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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