Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms

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Sujet : Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : alt.comp.os.windows-11 comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 21. Feb 2025, 22:33:30
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 13:11:54 -0500, Paul wrote:

On Thu, 2/20/2025 8:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
Why does Windows need to reboot about 5 times during an install?
Because nobody at Microsoft knows to reliably shut down and restart
their own services, so it’s easier just to reboot everything.
>
...
 
    2) SafeOS phase:    ...computer is booted into Windows PE during the
    SafeOS phase
                            Now the computer has a known good OS, to
                            continue the installation process

Here’s something else that wasn’t mentioned: on Windows, the running
processes keep open files locked, so they cannot be upgraded. Switching to
a minimal boot kernel isn’t so much about being “known good” as it is
about avoiding locks on files that need to be upgraded.

The logfiles go in a different place now.

Why? So that locks on files in that “different place” don’t matter for
upgrading the regular OS.

and somewhere in there, is the "Migration phase", where programs are
reinstalled one by one.

Wonder why this is even necessary. A Linux distro can upgrade itself in-
place, without touching third-party stuff in /usr/local or /opt.

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