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Sujet : Re: Linux advocacy
De : recscuba_google (at) *nospam* huntzinger.com (-hh)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 26. Sep 2024, 04:34:41
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On 9/25/24 10:51 PM, DFS wrote:
On 9/25/2024 8:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 11:54:52 -0400, DFS wrote:
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What you should think about is the fact that one of the early Unix
pioneers didn't primarily run Unix or Linux for most of his life.
>
Of course he did. What else would he want to use? There were Unix
workstations available all through the decades until Windows NT killed
them off.
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"Sort of born into" Apple is bs.  Even if he started with Apple from the
beginning - mid-to-late 70s - he was already 30-35 years old.  I wish he
was more specific on what bothers him about Apple.
>
Not obvious to you? It’s obvious to me, and I was using Apple Macs from
just about the beginning of that product line, until the switch to OS X.
>
Maybe you need to have the same experience to understand it.
  Ken Thompson makes an extremely vague, meaningless claim about Apple, then you lie that "it's obvious to me" when he didn't say what the problem was?
 "should allow you to work" implies you can no longer work with an Apple computer running macOS.  Absurd.
 
I've heard a beef from software developers in that Apple makes it "hard" to write compliant software to the Apple UI and coding standards.
This is a fairly legitimate beef from the perspective of a lab rat banging out something for just themselves to use on a quick project...
...but that's not the intent of those standards:  they're to make sure that software gets written consistent to the overall UI presentation so that people other than the software's author can grok it.
Let's face it:  programmers are often sloppy and/or lazy, and work projects rarely allow a leisurely pace where all of the documentation gets written out in full, so some degree of handcuffs are deserved. Plus perhaps this is a place where AI will become a useful tool in software development, such as to do the documentation that too often gets skipped.  BTDT (guilty of it myself).
-hh

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