Re: A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines Could Take Over the World.

On 2024-10-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

Le 2024-10-14 à 19 h 01, RonB a écrit :

On 2024-10-14, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

Borax Man wrote:

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On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

John Smyth wrote:

'A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines
Could Take Over the World.'
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<https://archive.is/VuJ4L#selection-2403.0-2597.172>
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'The newly minted Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton has a message about the
artificial-intelligence systems he helped create: get more serious about
safety or they could endanger humanity.

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i am 50-50 on the view that AI will pose a danger to humanity.
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both sides have decent arguments and i cant make up my mind.

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I don't think AI will take over, as it is not really capable of
out-of-band thinking.  AI cannot solve a problem which hasn't been
defined.  For example, you can get AI to perhaps streamline a process or
design, make it more efficient, but it won't come to the realisation
that the thing you are trying to do, may not be necessary after all.  So
AI would have to do something it is not capable of at the moment, coming
to new realisations and acting on that information.
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The threat from AI I think is more how we act.  I see a danger where we
trust AI, and treat it like it is a superintelligence, and we use it as
a crutch to make desicions, which turn out to be poor, suboptimal
decisions.
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current models may not be able to, but there is an exponential
curve we are riding.

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What we have seen is better models because they have more data.  But
there is a leap to be made to get them to think out of band.  This is a
very different type of program, and now where I think the A.I. path is
leading to at the moment.
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Machines can't think, and programs can't think.

 
And most of programmers involved with creating AI can't think clearly either
(or at least they're pushing the agenda of their masters). Garbage in,
garbage out. (Remember when Google had to pull part of their AI imaging
because it was so DEI that it was completely incapable of producing white
Nazis or Vikings.) That's how AI "works" when it's programmed by the Woke.

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The sad part is that Debian seems to be going in that direction too.
Lunduke just revealed it today. Regardless of their code of conduct,
paid internship offers for Debian are asking Whites and Asians not to
apply. Strangely, Ubuntu, of all distributions, seems to be one of the
least woke.

I don't know where Linux Mint stands here. But it shouldn't be too surprising
that Ubuntu is less Woke. For one, they're a company that's trying to earn a
profit and, two, they're not a U.S. based company. South Africa doesn't seem
too keen on the Woke crap. At least they're independent of the U.S. and
Europe in several areas. And they are part of BRICS.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien