Re: A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines Could Take Over the World.

On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

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On 2024-10-14, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

Borax Man wrote:

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On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

John Smyth wrote:

'A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines
Could Take Over the World.'
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<https://archive.is/VuJ4L#selection-2403.0-2597.172>
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'The newly minted Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton has a message about the
artificial-intelligence systems he helped create: get more serious about
safety or they could endanger humanity.

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i am 50-50 on the view that AI will pose a danger to humanity.
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both sides have decent arguments and i cant make up my mind.

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I don't think AI will take over, as it is not really capable of
out-of-band thinking.  AI cannot solve a problem which hasn't been
defined.  For example, you can get AI to perhaps streamline a process or
design, make it more efficient, but it won't come to the realisation
that the thing you are trying to do, may not be necessary after all.  So
AI would have to do something it is not capable of at the moment, coming
to new realisations and acting on that information.
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The threat from AI I think is more how we act.  I see a danger where we
trust AI, and treat it like it is a superintelligence, and we use it as
a crutch to make desicions, which turn out to be poor, suboptimal
decisions.
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current models may not be able to, but there is an exponential
curve we are riding.

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What we have seen is better models because they have more data.  But
there is a leap to be made to get them to think out of band.  This is a
very different type of program, and now where I think the A.I. path is
leading to at the moment.
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Machines can't think, and programs can't think.

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And most of programmers involved with creating AI can't think clearly either
(or at least they're pushing the agenda of their masters). Garbage in,
garbage out. (Remember when Google had to pull part of their AI imaging
because it was so DEI that it was completely incapable of producing white
Nazis or Vikings.) That's how AI "works" when it's programmed by the Woke.

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The sad part is that Debian seems to be going in that direction too.
Lunduke just revealed it today. Regardless of their code of conduct,
paid internship offers for Debian are asking Whites and Asians not to
apply. Strangely, Ubuntu, of all distributions, seems to be one of the
least woke.

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I don't know where Linux Mint stands here. But it shouldn't be too surprising
that Ubuntu is less Woke. For one, they're a company that's trying to earn a
profit and, two, they're not a U.S. based company. South Africa doesn't seem
too keen on the Woke crap. At least they're independent of the U.S. and
Europe in several areas. And they are part of BRICS.

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Those last three were selling points when I was looking for the right
distribution. I've come to terms with the fact that my experience in
Linux is not likely to be stellar at all times, but I want to be as
self-sufficient as possible and Windows doesn't factor into that
equation. Right now, Kubuntu 24.04 is doing the job. I'll probably have
a few freezes here and there, but so far I can enable S3 on my machine
and _not_ have it use a ridiculous amount of battery power upon wake
unlike Windows, I am completely rid of Edge, I don't need to run an
application at all times just to limit my battery charge, the game I
play the most runs beautifully, I can easily split screen for use in the
class, etc.. If I don't want to be spied on, want to keep my machine for
near a decade and don't want to crash on simple things like opening an
image file, Linux will be fine.
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I'm crossing fingers that I don't go nuts in the next few weeks.

 
Good luck. I realize that game playing (and game machines) makes Linux more
difficult to use.

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It's not just the gaming, it's the suspend too. I'll be honest, I
already ran into a machine which refused to wake in Kubuntu 24.04.
However, I hadn't yet made the necessary modifications to enable proper
functionality, from what I can tell. According to Brave's search, I have
to make sure to enable a few NVIDIA services to get it to work right and
I did that, but we'll see if I run into the problem again. Either way,
I've lost interest in the corporate crap in the same way I've lost
interest in other things I used to enjoy when I was younger. I'm more
willing to put up with such stuff, especially since I know that the
situation isn't much better in Windows anyway. There, I might be able to
use my fingerprint reader and get access to the movies I bought from
Microsoft, but I have to ensure the company constantly reinstalling Edge
and OneDrive, or telling me that my account doesn't work right because
the latter is uninstalled. Additionally, right before I decided to go
back to Linux, Windows froze from me attempting to look at a picture of
my son while watching Louder with Crowder. Why that would cause a freeze
is beyond me. It also had this weird issue where, from time to time
while the GPU was enabled, the sound would stutter for about three
seconds before going back to normal. Other people with my laptop
reported that problem so it's either a hardware or Windows thing, but
it's not happening in Linux.
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If a few games don't play, I don't really care because I only really
play Civilization 6 consistently. Besides, if the games don't run
_today_, they might in a week. Linux's support for such stuff is always
improving.

I'm sorry about the sleep thing. That just hasn't been an issue for me. I've
still got one computer (the old Latitude D630) that won't boot normally with
just the battery (works fine when hooked to power). The workaround is to go
into the BIOS and exit, then it boots fine fine from the battery. But I want
to find the real issue and fix it. It worked fine in earlier versions of
Linux Mint. I'm guessing it's some kind of timing issue.

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