Re: YouTube Linux advocate: "not remotely possible" Linux could surpass Windows on the desktop

On 2024-10-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2024-10-22 3:44 a.m., RonB wrote:

On 2024-10-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2024-10-21 10:48 a.m., DFS wrote:

On 10/21/2024 10:13 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2024-10-20 10:50 p.m., vallor wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
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https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
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The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
always interesting.  Most of them are pro-Linux of course.

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Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
Windows is "Linux on the desktop".
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I know that must eat at you...

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Absolutely none of that makes any kind of sense.

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He's referring to Windows Subsystem for Linux.
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Bloaty thinks MS adding it as a feature bothers me and is a victory for
Linux.  He forgets Microsoft has had a *nix component available
continuously for Windows for 25 years.
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Rather than bother me, I'm glad MS made it so easy to run a
high-performing Linux distro alongside Windows.
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$ wsl --list --online
The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
Install using 'wsl.exe --install <Distro>'.
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NAME                            FRIENDLY NAME
Ubuntu                          Ubuntu
Debian                          Debian GNU/Linux
kali-linux                      Kali Linux Rolling
Ubuntu-18.04                    Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Ubuntu-20.04                    Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
Ubuntu-22.04                    Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Ubuntu-24.04                    Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
OracleLinux_7_9                 Oracle Linux 7.9
OracleLinux_8_7                 Oracle Linux 8.7
OracleLinux_9_1                 Oracle Linux 9.1
openSUSE-Leap-15.6              openSUSE Leap 15.6
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP5    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP5
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP6    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP6
openSUSE-Tumbleweed             openSUSE Tumbleweed
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And you can create and distribute your own WSL distros.

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The Linux desktop environment won't have any kind of a victory until
companies willingly sell it in stores and actually make a profit. Until
then, it'll be niche. It works well, it's pretty, but it remains niche.

 
A gigantic "niche."

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No, a small niche. It doesn't rule the tablet world, iOS does. It
doesn't rule the phone world, Android does (simply because they offer
both cheap and expensive handsets). They don't rule the desktop, Windows
does.

No, a gigantic niche. Around 5% of the world's desktops (including laptops)
which is not a small number. When you include Chromebooks (which run on
Linux), that's about 7%. Android phones (running on the Linux kernel) 71%.
Android tablets (running on the Linux kernel) 44%. About 80% or 90% of web
servers. And almost all embedded devices.

So Linux is huge. And 5-7% of the desktop market is also "huge." And it's
definitely not dwindling.

It can be argued that the mere fact that Android uses the Linux kernel
means that Linux won. However, people here have trouble deciding whether
Android is Linux or not. Since people use the environment atop Linux
exclusively, it shouldn't be factored in as a Linux machine.

I don't care what you call Android itself, but it's definitely not the
Windows kernel it's running on. The Windows market is desktops which, when
compared to the whole OS market, is a niche market.

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