Re: The Joy Of Democracy

On 2024-10-25 6:32 a.m., RonB wrote:

On 2024-10-24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:53:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
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On 2024-10-23 2:56 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
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If you mean “large cities”, those are in fact the backbone of your
economy. The US isn’t an agrarian society any more.
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Why should the value of someone’s vote depend on where they live?

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If the people in those "large cities" do not receive food, what will
happen to them?

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They won’t be able to make the machines that the farmers use to farm their
crops. There would be no electricity generation or fuel supply, no
manufacturing of farmhouses, no laying of roads for the trucks to supply
feed and fertilizer and seed and take away produce. Nobody to pay the
farmers. Nobody to educate them on how to grow their crops.
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The whole system collapses.

 
Do you really think the electricity generation is done in the cities? Do you
really think seeds and fertilizer come from the cities? (Fertilizer from
what... pigeons?) Do you really think the material to build roads and the
workers who build them come from the cities? Good grief.
 
I didn't think it was possible for anyone to be so damned clueless about
reality.
 
As for iron... that comes from China now. Our parasite government has
managed to all but destroy Detroit and the steel industry. What cars we
still build i the United States are done more and more in rural areas, like
the Carolinas and Tennessee. Go back to the 1940s and you might have a
point.

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What China has done to steel is a crime which should also serve as a
reminder that relying on outside nations for your goods is suicidal. To
give you an idea, the tunnel between Montreal and its south shore is
being renovated. However, the new cement used is already cracking. Why?
Because it isn't the same kind of cement that we used decades ago; it's
coming from elsewhere and the quality is shit. I'm convinced that it's
not different with the cement my home's builder used when he made the
tunnel between houses here. In the case of Chinese steel, the quality
isn't there at all in the best of cases. In the worst, you have a
fraction of the steel being covered by a plastic shell to make it _look_
like it is the same thing as what was used in the past. This is the
stuff they're building bridges with and it will definitely result in the
death of countless people. China doesn't care, but why doesn't the
United States?