Re: As the cosmos goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse . . .

On 10/27/24 5:34 PM, D wrote:
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 > On Sun, 27 Oct 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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 >> On 27/10/2024 05:35, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 >>> On 10/26/24 10:21 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
 >>>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 02:06:21 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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 >>>>> "Our whole universe was in a hot dense state..."
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 >>>> As I look around, I see some in this noisegroup who still seem to be in
 >>>> that state ...
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 >>>    Normally these groups are VERY quiet. But then it's only
 >>>    about a week before elections.
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 >>>    As for the universe, it USED to be in a 'hot dense state',
 >>>    but has cooled-off considerably. If 'dark energy' calx are
 >>>    correct we're already on the downside - headed for icy doom.
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 >> Well so says the metaphysics of the classical scientific world view.
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 >> We are surfing a wave of entropy created by the big bang and will all
 >> end up washed up the beach gasping and then die.
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 >> Of course  the metaphysics of the classical scientific world view is
 >> only a man made theory, when it comes down to it. And can neither be
 >> proven true or false.
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 > The world actually can be proven true. G.E. Moore did it many decades
 > ago. Here's a hand!
   Even the Buddha said the universe was "real" - just
   that creatures like US, maybe any, could never really
   see it's entirety - barely a key-hole view. Our evolution,
   bodies, senses, brains ... we see things through "Human-
   Colored Glasses" and that's our kinda faux view of things.
   We are PRODUCTS of The Universe, but each product must
   have its own special perspective. In more computer terms
   it's like The System trying to eval/evolve itself. Even at
   best, the eval CHANGES the System, so it's a never-ending
   task. Yea, kinda 'quantum' in some respects - don't LOOK
   or you change what you're looking at.
   It's reality's "Fuck You !"  :-)