Re: List of 787 MS products

On 2024-10-31, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

Le 2024-10-30 à 12:27, RonB a écrit :

On 2024-10-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2024-10-30 2:46 a.m., RonB wrote:

On 2024-10-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2024-10-29 3:08 a.m., RonB wrote:

On 2024-10-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2024-10-28 12:48 p.m., DFS wrote:

On 10/26/2024 9:30 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
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Le 24-10-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :

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Let say that the major part of this list is only different versions of
the same product. I'll try o remember that when you say there are too
many Linux distros.

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Right now distrowatch lists 165 active x86_64 desktop Linux distros.
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But 8-10 distros make up 90% of Linux desktop users.
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What's the lesson here?

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People fork for the sake of forking rather than to improve anything.

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The lesson? Linux is open source and people are free do what they want with
it. No justification needed for forking it.
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Choice is good.

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It is great in theory, but everyone seems to want to have their own
distribution so rather than working together for a common goal, they're
working apart. Theoretically, the improvements go into the same pool no
matter what but I wonder if they actually do.

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It's great in practice. I don't WANT everyone working for a common goal, or
a single distribution. One distribution could be controlled by one group of
people. One distribution could more easily be attacked with an exploit. The
so-called "weakness" in Linux (too many distributions) is to me its
strength. It's how it says completely open source.
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Choice is good.

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I'm noticing that a lot of people who think the way you and I do have
lost confidence in Linux and have started to move toward other projects
like Serenity, BSD, Haiku and now RiscOS. Linux is starting to smell as
bad as Marx did so some people with traditional values who also hate
proprietary software are opting to jump ship.

 
I'm not sure how you're getting "Marx" connected to Linux. Marx demanded
compliance, Linux is for choice and freedom. It seems the *lack* of control
and slavish compliance is what you don't like about Linux.

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I was saying that the Marxists are taking over the Linux world, not that
the system itself is Marxist in nature. I used to see it that way but
it's pretty clear that there is nothing tyrannical about the Linux
world... for now. Those woke clowns are trying desperately to change all
of that.

Okay. My mistake. I thought we were still talking about the Linux
distributions not "working in common" and instead forking off into
different distributions. I missed the pivot.

Choice is good. I don't know anything about Serenity or RiscOS, but I've
tried BSD and Haiku (if you don't like Linux I'm pretty sure you won't like
either one of them, but it won't hurt to give them a shot). I'll check out
RiscOS and Serenity — I like the name of Serenity at any rate.

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It looks like RiscOS is running on the Raspberry Pi for the time being.
To be honest, it will be nice for people who bought that hardware to
play around with something other than Linux for a change. Still, I like
that such an old operating system is being made to work with current
demands. We can at least be sure that the core of the system is very light.

Yep. On the WYSE 5070 thin client that I bought, there is 8 GB storage built
in (in addition to the 64GB SSD). So on that 8GB "drive" I installed the
very small and lightweight BunsenLabs Linux. It uses Debian and the OpenBox
desktop (they say it's a continuation of CrunchBang Linux). It works pretty
well on that WYSE. I dual-boot Linux Mint Xfce on the 64GB SSD — which also
works fine.

These thin clients are actually cheaper and more useful than the Raspberry
Pi and other small, one board computers. About $30 (or less) shipped if
you're patient on eBay. They aren't ARM though, they run Intel or AMD (on
the 5060) 64 bit CPUs. Very low wattage, no fans, just a big heat sync.

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