Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : recscuba_google (at) *nospam* huntzinger.com (-hh)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 02. Jan 2025, 22:11:11
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On 1/1/25 1:20 PM, Joel wrote:
Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 11:44:29 -0500, -hh wrote:
>
[quote]
Unfortunately, the only way that this point actually becomes
"reasonable" is by finally admitting that many/most Linux fanboys are
chronic consummate cheapskates.
[/quote]
>
You omit that many/most commercial software packages are
EXTORTIONATE in that they capture users via proprietary
formats and subscription accounts.  The only difference
between them and the gangsters of old are the machine
guns.
>
I can pay $100 for a 1/2" power drill and I can expect it
to last 25-50 years or more.  (I inherited a power drill
from my grandfather that is almost 70 years old.  The
only problem is a loose connection in the power cable
that can be easily fixed.)
>
That same $100 won't even buy a 1 month subscription
for a desktop software package.
>
The situation is borderline criminality.
>
Both software and information want to be free (as in
"freedom" and not "beer").  We are seeing this happen.
Commercial software on the desktop is an endangered species.
>
I can understand the airline industry paying big bucks
for flight reservation software, or the nuclear power industry
paying big bucks for control software, but a desktop spreadsheet
or word processor is trivial and should cost nothing.
>
Everything done on the desktop has been standardized decades
ago.  There is no need for commercial software in this arena.
  Clearly you're just ranting nonsense,
Which is par for the course for Feeb.
For example, good luck finding a 1/2" power drill for sale new today for just $100 which will last for even 10 years of use, let alone his "25-50" claim:  the days of bulletproof all metal body Craftsman or Black & Decker power tools are long since gone.
And they've been gone for decades:  I can recall being on a job site circa 1980 where the commercial grades died and the solution was a quick run to Sears to buy a couple of Craftsman drills until the good stuff could be express delivered.  The result was that the assembly team was burning out nearly 1 drill/day, which also meant that after 3-4 dead drills got returned, the Sears was getting wise to the returns.

...people will pay M$ and Adobe for software if they really need it, the question is more whether the average consumer needs them - I, for one, prefer LO and GIMP
Of course, but that's a shift from "average user" to "consumer" to take away the original context of corporate applications where these examples were indeed the mainstream tools for decades, to try to rationalize based on the needs/budgets of just a personal home PC user.
-hh

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Dec 24 * GIMP 3.0.0-RC1733Chris Ahlstrom
26 Dec 24 `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1732Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC145John Ames
26 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC133Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC132John Ames
26 Dec 24  ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC130Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  ii i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii ii +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Physfitfreak
28 Dec 24  ii ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
27 Dec 24  ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123TJ
27 Dec 24  ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC122The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC120-hh
28 Dec 24  ii i  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
29 Dec 24  ii i  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC116Farley Flud
29 Dec 24  ii i  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC114TJ
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC111rbowman
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  ii i  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
26 Dec 24  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC18rbowman
27 Dec 24  ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11RonB
27 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15rbowman
27 Dec 24  ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  ii   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13rbowman
28 Dec 24  ii    `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Chris Ahlstrom
28 Dec 24  ii     `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
27 Dec 24  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1626Farley Flud
28 Dec 24  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1625186282@ud0s4.net
28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119Farley Flud
28 Dec 24  i i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC112The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  i ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Diego Garcia
29 Dec 24  i ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Dec 24  i ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19186282@ud0s4.net
29 Dec 24  i ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16D
29 Dec 24  i ii i+* Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)2Lars Poulsen
30 Dec 24  i ii ii`- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)1rbowman
30 Dec 24  i ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13D
31 Dec 24  i ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12186282@ud0s4.net
31 Dec 24  i ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  i ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
29 Dec 24  i ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lem Novantotto
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)5Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Dec 24  i i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1-hh
28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1428Computer Nerd Kev
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1427D
30 Dec 24  i i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1426D
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Computer Nerd Kev
31 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1423D
1 Jan 25  i i   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i   i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
1 Jan 25  i i   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1420D
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC124rbowman
1 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12D
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119The Natural Philosopher
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118D
3 Jan 25  i i    ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC117186282@ud0s4.net
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Carlos E.R.
4 Jan 25  i i    ii  i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC113D
3 Jan 25  i i    ii   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC112John Ames
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14rbowman
5 Jan 25  i i    ii    i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13Physfitfreak
5 Jan 25  i i    ii    i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
7 Jan 25  i i    ii    i   `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11186282@ud0s4.net
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
1 Jan 25  i i    +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1393D
2 Jan 25  i i    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
29 Dec 24  i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1177-hh
27 Dec 24  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC159Carlos E.R.

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