Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing

On Fri, 1/3/2025 10:18 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

On 2025-01-02 14:00, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
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The bug that finally caused me to stop bothering with them isn't
Microsoft's fault, but I do fault them for continuing to demand TPM when
the requirement was causing stuttering with anyone who owned an AMD
processor. [...]

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   I didn't follow this 'stuttering' problem before, but as I have an AMD
processor and - like you - in a laptop [1], can you tell me how/where I
would experience said stuttering? So far everything seems to be running
fine.
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[...]
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[1] HP Pavilion 15-eh2560nd laptop, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U 2.3Ghz 6 Cores,
Windows 11 24H2.

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An example:
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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnRL-x6DVI>

 
  Thankss!
 
  I've never experienced any noticeable video/display stuttering, but
then I don't play games and watch few, but some, videos. OTOH, the
author says "Regardless of what programs I was running.". I assume he
means "Regardless of what *other* programs I was running."
 
  I got my laptop in end of July 2022. Most references are older than
that. Perhaps my laptop was already fixed by HP/AMD.
 
  The video and its notes talk about 'fTPM' ('firmware TPM'). When I run
'tpm.msc' as mentioned in the notes, the 'Trusted Platform Module
Management' plugin only mentions 'TPM', not 'fTPM' anywhere, so perhaps
I *do* have a discrete TPM module.
 
  Anyway, the only specific information reported is:
 
"TPM Manufacturer Information
 Manufacturer Name: AMD
 Manufacturer Version: 3.91.2.5
 Specification Version: 2.0"
 

An acknowledgement from AMD:
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<https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-acknowledges-ftpm-stuttering-issues-promises-a-bios-fix-in-may>
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I doubt that you never experienced it. However, you might have had it
fixed if you use a desktop and the manufacturer of your motherboard
issued an update for the problem.

 
  Thanks again! I thought I didn't download/install any BIOS firmware
update, but on checking my notes, I remembered/saw that there was a
*forced* BIOS upgrade as part of the 12SEP2023 monthly Windows Update
cycle, so perhaps the problem (which I never encountered/noticed) was
fixed at that time.
 
  AFAIC, case closed. But feel free to comment. Thanks.
 

You could check your BIOS date with CPU-Z .

The other machine, they stopped delivering BIOS updates,
so I'm missing one for security on that machine. The
machine has no TPM and only an fTPM style implementation.

What's strange on the Asus board, is the BIOS file happens
to support around a half-dozen of their machines (design
similarity) and has code for physical TPM detection and use,
yet, there are no pins on the motherboard for a TPM module to
plug into.

All my BIOS have been installed by me.

I don't normally flash BIOS for fun, but I flash in
the security ones.

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/xT5W12yT/BIOS-f-TPM-Five-Fans-machine.gif

Some Windwos things, may involve screwing with MOK or CA stored
in the NVRAM of the UEFI BIOS. On Linux, a boot time utility
(MOKutil?) makes changes to the BIOS info. Microsoft updated some
key thing, to a 2023 date, and the Linux signed shims align
with that same item that was added to the BIOS.

   Paul