Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

On 1/9/25 10:43 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-01-09 10:20, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/9/25 9:58 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-01-09 00:29, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/8/25 8:18 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-01-08 19:42, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:53:21 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
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Someone was circulating the theory that Trump's (and Musk's) desire to
annex both Canada and Greenland is the result of wanting access to the
minerals there, which are crucial to the development of electric
vehicles. I would imagine that there are lots of strategic military
reasons too. Maybe the man isn't joking...

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https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/china-arctic-russia/
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Shipping, gas, oil, minerals, fisheries...  Historically, Denmark hasn't
done well protecting its interests since the Danish-Hanseatic War and
certainly can't defend Greenland nor is an independent Greenland feasible.
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Canada is a far reach but with Trudeau the Lesser quitting, who knows. The
SAM provinces might be weighing which is worse, DC or Ottawa.

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There will be lots of resistance simply because Canadians have traditionally seen themselves as "better" than Americans and don't want to be a part of the "inferior" culture. In reality, there is nothing better here except for the women in Quebec. They look better than what the US produces, but they're just as dim.

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   Talk/jokes/etc aside, Canada will not be joined with
   the USA any time soon. The culture/system/history is
   just too different for a good fit.

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Loyalists vs rebels, yes. However, most of Canada is still Protestant so there is already similarity there. The United States has also been a melting pot traditionally, but now it is more of a multicultural society like Canada. Clearly, that's a bad thing, but it means that there is similarity.
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   Trump makes these statements For EFFECT ... not because
   he's really serious. He mostly wants Canada to deal with
   all the immigrants coming down. He's a native salesman
   and thus creates grand illusions - intending to deal
   somewhere to the middle.
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   With Greenland, for example, it was barely a week after
   he talked about buying/occupying that Denmark suddenly
   put a LOT more money into defense efforts there. This
   is more what he really wanted. As an actual territory,
   Greenland would be a huge money-loser. SO, real world,
   expect more EU and US military watch bases there. That
   is 'good enough'.

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Militarily, I would imagine that having American bases in Greenland would be interesting to the Americans. They have a base pretty much everywhere else.

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   The US already HAS at least one active base there now.
   Used to have more during the Cold War.
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   Saw a docu recently about a base they embedded deep in
   a glacier - complete with its own nuke reactor. Soon
   found out that ice was not nearly as stable as they
   imagined ... the whole thing kinda sunk in and fell
   apart.
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   Then a couple weeks ago there was a tourist photo of
   that glacier ... bits of the mil base were now oozing
   out the side of the ice.
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   There are a number of micro-settlements all around
   the Greenland coast. Hard to say how many are US
   or EU radar stations - they won't tell.
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   My grand-daddy visited Greenland in the late 1800s to
   see if there were any farming prospects. Answer - NO !
   Can't even put in roads, gotta hop from fjord to fjord
   by boat and the glaciers are too unstable to try and
   drive on top of.

 My favourite depiction of Greenland is the one in the TV show Vikings where Kjetill Flatnose and others get there and immediately create borders for each family. They quickly get to starving and fight over the carcass of some whale that washed up ashore. In the end, Flatnose is all that's left and he's overjoyed that he's the king of this vast, uninhabited wasteland.

   Heh heh ... the one and only king  :-)
   Yea, Greenland is pretty dismal. The Inuit can 'get by'
   but they sure as hell ain't gettin' rich. A 'city' is
   like 150 people and the weather is nasty.
   Now 100+ years from now, if all remains constant, the
   ice will have melted back some more and there might be
   a more useful exposed rim. It'll still suck though.
   'Minerals' look to be Greenland's main ticket to any
   kind of future beyond the village level and drinking
   themselves to death.
   IMHO, just negotiate for a few more mil base locations
   and that's that. Vastly easier and cheaper than trying
   to literally assume ownership - or starting a war.
   I think Trump, by sounding like an imperialist asshole,
   is gonna get most of what he REALLY wants in Greenland -
   more bases and more Danish/EU investment in such. Vlad
   DOES want to 'own the arctic' and everything everywhere
   in it ... so a certain amount of push-back is required.
   Some bits of Canada are very very close to the NW tip
   of Greenland. Might be a good alt for mil bases. But,
   for 'defense', more is gonna be needed along the east
   coast of Greenland. Guys caught with the generals'
   daughter will be assigned there .....
   In any case, Earth the place. Sometimes have to zoom in
   pretty close before place names and/or clear signs of
   human activity can be seen.