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On Thu, 1/16/2025 6:22 AM, -hh wrote:One does that by not buying junk brands, which has nothing to do with if one is components or complete systems.
>The motivation, is we don't want to buy shit.
Of course. Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in motivation: is the DIY because money's tight? Or is the motivation because tinkering with hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime?
Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions.
Do I want a Dell with a four phase VCore, whenThat's a criticism of Dell, not of all PC system manufacturers.
I can have a twenty four phase VCore on an
expensive motherboard ?
Do I want a 230W power supply on a Dell, when
I can pick up an 850W power supply at Best Buy ?
Now, I can plug in an RTX4090 when I want to.
On the Dell, that's... impossible (even if you
went out and bought the 850W supply, it probably
would not fit in the small Dell case, neither would
the Dell cooling system be adequate for the thermal
load and there wouldn't even be a mounting location
for a fan to be added).
When you do a build, you control everything, andDoing all of in in-house is taking the "longcut", plus you've effectively adopted all possible repair & warranty headaches too. When the costs are significant, its not a trade-off to casually commit to.
no screwing around or taking shortcuts.
Let's take an example, Mr.LaptopMan.Okay, Mr Logical_Fallacy_Man, because noting that the marketplace reality is that 80% buy laptops now isn't an endorsement of that fact that should get you upset and slinging lame Ad Hominems.
Take the ladyWhen the customer wants a laptop, offering a desktop solution is inappropriate & will be disregarded.
in the computer store the other day, a salesman
explaining to her that "the laptop with the 4070
is faster than the laptop with the 4060" for gaming.
Well, what the salesman didn't tell the gaming lady,
is that the owner will beat the piss out of the laptop
and it will be knackered after only four years. While you
are having a gaming experience, it won't last.
Whereas, with a desktop, if I wear the keycaps off my
keyboard playing Tetris, I just swap keyboards, takes
about ten seconds. If the video cards burns the
connector off, chuck it on the table, pop in another.
And if I want four NVMe storage, I can pop in a boardOr buy one of these for a laptop...boom:
with four sleds on it, and boom, done.
With this, I could install twenty four NVMe on six cards.Sure, but that's just a niche of a niche. And since Thunderbolt can daisy-chain a half dozen devices per port, 6x4 = 24 NMVE's too.
"Asus Pro WS W790E-SAGE SE"
https://dlcdnwebimgs.asus.com/gain/f8c9b3f4-1a07-4645-aa79-594c48bd4090/w692
(Note desktop I/O style on the left)
https://dlcdnwebimgs.asus.com/files/media/35d86ad4-c99a-49d7-b8bb-09601ad49164/images/swiper_left.png
You're in control of the build. If something breaks,You very well may have little to no choice other than to try to fix it yourself. What shops will even touch a DIY build these days?
you're in control of the repair too. No returning a unit
three times, hearing "no fault found", haranguing tech
support for a replacement machine and so on. Think of
the hair loss saved.
I don't want to use anyones "warranty service".You may not have much choice in the matter anymore.
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