Sujet : Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored
De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacyDate : 13. Feb 2025, 22:05:34
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:58:30 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
Neural networks can likely do "someone in there" even better,
eventually. At the moment LLMs get most of the funding so NNs are a
bit behind the curve. New/better hardware and paradigms are needed
but WILL eventually arrive.
>
So far there is nobody in there for CNNs. You know all the pieces and they
don't magically start breathing when you put them together. It is true the
whole system is a bit of a black box but it is describable.
>
The problem I see is already starting -- turning them into weapons and
letting them run autonomously. One of the 'hello world' applications is
training a NN on a huge number of labeled photos of cats and dogs and the
models perform very well.
>
The metrics are sort of a truth table, with false negatives, false
positives, and correct identification. It's a stochastic process so you're
looking at 'good enough', maybe 97%. Say I hate dogs, set up a camera in
the yard, and shoot all the dogs. A few dogs are going to slide and I'll
kill a few cats.
>
Now hand this to the military. The AI decides it sees a terrorist and a
Reaper puts a Hellfire missile up his ass. You get a few school kids, but
that's life.
>
The Israelis may already be doing something like that or maybe they just
randomly kill people, who knows?
Yes! As long as the % for innocents decreases, they'll jump on it. Of course the US and China are developing autonomoues "AI"-driven drones and rockets as we speak.
Give AI enhanced facial recognition to the cops -- won't that be fun.
Enter 'Minority Report'.
They did that in some country, and it always targeted immigrants. The AI was judged racist, and the project shut down. It was hilarious! =D
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
13 Feb 25 | Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 71 | | WokieSux282@ud0s4.net |
13 Feb 25 |  Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 70 | | rbowman |
13 Feb 25 |   Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 60 | | WokieSux282@ud0s4.net |
13 Feb 25 |    Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 45 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |     Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 44 | | WokieSux282@ud0s4.net |
14 Feb 25 |      Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 42 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |       Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | vallor |
14 Feb 25 |       Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 40 | | The Natural Philosopher |
14 Feb 25 |        Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 39 | | D |
15 Feb 25 |         Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 3 | | c186282 |
15 Feb 25 |          Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | D |
15 Feb 25 |           Motivation of High Performing People | 1 | | Lars Poulsen |
15 Feb 25 |         Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 35 | | The Natural Philosopher |
15 Feb 25 |          Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 4 | | D |
16 Feb 25 |           Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 3 | | c186282 |
16 Feb 25 |            Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | D |
16 Feb 25 |             Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | rbowman |
15 Feb 25 |          Musk et al. | 30 | | Lars Poulsen |
15 Feb 25 |           Re: Musk et al. | 29 | | The Natural Philosopher |
15 Feb 25 |            Re: Musk et al. | 3 | | Chris Ahlstrom |
16 Feb 25 |             Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | pothead |
16 Feb 25 |             Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | The Natural Philosopher |
15 Feb 25 |            Re: Musk et al. | 3 | | Lars Poulsen |
15 Feb 25 |             Re: Musk et al. | 2 | | Computer Nerd Kev |
16 Feb 25 |              Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | The Natural Philosopher |
15 Feb 25 |            Re: Musk et al. | 22 | | Computer Nerd Kev |
16 Feb 25 |             Re: Musk et al. | 21 | | D |
16 Feb 25 |              Re: Musk et al. | 14 | | Sn!pe |
16 Feb 25 |               Re: Musk et al. | 13 | | D |
16 Feb 25 |                Re: Musk et al. | 12 | | Computer Nerd Kev |
17 Feb 25 |                 Re: Musk et al. | 9 | | D |
17 Feb 25 |                  Re: Musk et al. | 8 | | Lars Poulsen |
17 Feb 25 |                   Re: Musk et al. | 7 | | D |
17 Feb 25 |                    Re: Musk et al. | 5 | | Sn!pe |
18 Feb 25 |                     Re: Musk et al. | 4 | | D |
18 Feb 25 |                      [OT] dual nationality and marriage (was: Re: Musk et al.) | 3 | | Sn!pe |
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17 Feb 25 |                    Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | Lars Poulsen |
17 Feb 25 |                 Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | Andreas Eder |
17 Feb 25 |                 Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | Physfitfreak |
16 Feb 25 |              Re: Musk et al. | 6 | | Computer Nerd Kev |
17 Feb 25 |               Re: Musk et al. | 5 | | D |
17 Feb 25 |                Re: Musk et al. | 2 | | The Natural Philosopher |
17 Feb 25 |                 Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | D |
17 Feb 25 |                Re: Musk et al. | 2 | | Computer Nerd Kev |
18 Feb 25 |                 Re: Musk et al. | 1 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |      Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | The Natural Philosopher |
13 Feb 25 |    Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 14 | | rbowman |
14 Feb 25 |     Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 12 | | The Natural Philosopher |
14 Feb 25 |      Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 4 | | WokieSux282@ud0s4.net |
14 Feb 25 |       Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |        Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | The Natural Philosopher |
14 Feb 25 |       Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | The Natural Philosopher |
14 Feb 25 |      Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 7 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |       Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 6 | | The Natural Philosopher |
14 Feb 25 |        Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | Physfitfreak |
15 Feb 25 |         Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | The Natural Philosopher |
14 Feb 25 |        Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 3 | | D |
15 Feb 25 |         Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | The Natural Philosopher |
15 Feb 25 |          Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |     Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | D |
13 Feb 25 |   Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | DFS |
13 Feb 25 |    Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | rbowman |
13 Feb 25 |   Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 6 | | D |
13 Feb 25 |    Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | rbowman |
14 Feb 25 |     Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | D |
14 Feb 25 |    Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 3 | | WokieSux282@ud0s4.net |
14 Feb 25 |     Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 2 | | D |
16 Feb 25 |      Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | Usuario Tres ESware |
14 Feb 25 |   Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored | 1 | | -hh |