Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again

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Sujet : Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again
De : sc (at) *nospam* fiat-linux.fr (Stéphane CARPENTIER)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 15. Feb 2025, 23:36:39
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Le 15-02-2025, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
On 15 Feb 2025 11:27:36 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
Nobody want to install something from source anymore.
>
That’s why most distros offer prebuilt binaries.

No distro maintainer will package an unknown software made by un unknown
developer.

If a developer offers his software for everyone he has to provide a way
to install a working binary with it.
>
Nope. Just leave the building and packaging to the distro maintainers.
That’s something they know how to do.

No distro maintainer will package an unknown software made by un unknown
developer. (bis)

The downside is that each SnapImage/FlatApp/whatever has to carry
around all its dependencies with it,
 
On a modern system, it's not an issue anymore.
>
The idea that developers, particularly proprietary developers, can do
a better job of keeping these dependencies up to date than the distro
maintainers (whose job it is to do just that), just seems laughable.

No distro maintainer will package an unknown software made by un unknown
developer. (ter)

The developers don't care about the dependencies of the distros, they
care about the dependencies needed by their code. And believing the
maintainers of the distro know every dependency of all the packages they
manage is unrealistic.

And, by the way, believing that FOSS developers are better than
proprietary developers is just stupid. There is no rule that says: if
you are good you develop FOSS for free and if you are bad you are paid
to develop.

I know, it's easier to refuse the reality and to despise everything that
doesn't conform to your vision. As long as you don't work near a
developer it's safe. But your view of it is just garbage and you
shouldn't share it like if it's the only obvious truth.

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