Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux

On 15 Mar 2025 11:13:20 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:38:02 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:57:14 -0700, x wrote:
 

 Linux however is not
crippled and stifled in that way.  What add ons and operating systems
now exist with 3 dimensional space as its GUI rather than a 2D one
(like most GUIs)?
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After a minute of searching, I found this on Reddit:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXv8VlpoK_g
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass
 
 
This 3D desktop project is now defunct and it never caught on.
 
I can see why.  3D GUIs are a stupid idea.  They are not an answer
looking for a question, but more like a hallucination looking for a
schizophrenic.
 
Accept the reality.  The ultimate GUI, that of 2D windows, keyboard,
and mouse, is already with us.  It will never get any better despite
many vain attempts to make it better.
 
It's just like a car.  With the steering wheel, brake and accelerator
pedals, and shift lever, we have attained the ultimate driver UI.  It
can never get any better despite idiotic attempts to do so.

 
I watched the video with interest.
 
I'm sort of agreeing with you (for a change!), but there are some ideas
from the presentation that both made it in to Beryl/compiz, as well as
could enhance the current desktop experience.
 
Regarding the latter, I thought that flipping a window around for
annotations made sense -- or generally, annotated bookmarks of some
sort, in a browser-independent fashion.  Also, I was intrigued by the CD
picker application.  I think I would rather it show album covers, rather
than CD's, but that's just me -- also, maybe better organization, since
I have hundreds of music albums, and I can't imagine what that would
look like in a carousel arrangement.
 
Regarding the former, I remember using Beryl to play a video with
mplayer fullscreen, then rotating the cube to see the video playing on
one face of the cube.  That's a cute trick, but it doesn't really help
with much of anything -- but being able to push a video off to the side
makes some sort of sense, if you have only one monitor.
 
Of course, if you have two monitors, you can just fullscreen your video
on the second monitor.  (And on that note:  it's a shame that Linux's
NVIDIA DP/HDMI audio drivers will only address one DP/HDMI port at a
time, which means you can only drive one set of monitor-embedded
speakers at a time.)
 
Finally, there's the fact that Beryl (and I assume, compiz) can have
windows "float" over cube surfaces while rotating, which does give some
3D structure to the whole thing -- you can "see under" windows.  But
nowadays -- with compositing window managers like xfce -- one can have a
window be translucent while dragging it, so you can "see through" a
window at what's underneath.  (I suppose one could call that a "2.5D
window manager".)
 
Thank you for your post, Farley, that was good advocacy. :)

Also found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xDqNhGeEM

https://github.com/collinalexbell/HackMatrix

Apparently prone to crashes, but there if someone wants
to play with it.  (The name sort of puts me in mind
of something that might not be "production" quality...)

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