Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues

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Sujet : Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues
De : nospam (at) *nospam* needed.invalid (Paul)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy alt.comp.os.windows-11
Date : 19. Mar 2025, 00:29:19
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Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
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On Tue, 3/18/2025 11:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2025-03-17 17:37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 21:55:15 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:
>
Many years ago, a software engineer named Fred Brooks predicted that
some systems could get so complex that they would exceed a
manageable threshold of complexity, where every attempt to fix a bug
would just create new ones.
>
Microsoft passed this point a long time ago.
>
Further evidence
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/this-months-windows-updates-are-removing-the-copilot-app-accidentally/>:
now a Dimdows update deletes your Copilot app and taskbar icon, and
the only workaround is to put it all back again yourself:
>
     Microsoft says it is "working on a resolution to address the
     issue" but that users who want to get Copilot back can reinstall
     the app from the Microsoft Store and repin it to the taskbar, the
     same process you use to install Copilot on PCs where it has been
     removed.
>
This is why they say, Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth
nothing.
 
I can't disagree with the last part. Unsurprisingly, even yesterday, I ran an sfc /scannow & dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth combination, and I wasn't surprised to discover that the system once again had components needing to be repaired. The machine is always put to suspend as it should be and shut down properly, yet Windows breaks even when you use it properly. I can only imagine how "slow" the machine gets for users who don't know about these repair options and the constant need to execute them.
 

PS> dism /Online /Cleanup-image /ScanHealth

Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.22621.2792

Image Version: 10.0.22631.5039

[==========================100.0%==========================] No component store corruption detected.
The operation completed successfully.

PS>

I don't sleep or hibernate or fast start.
Notice how clean my stuff is. If there is a
change of state from S0, it's a shutdown, where the
OS dismounts the file system before termination. It
flushes any caches (the OS has a write cache in RAM,
the cache normally being flushed).

*******

Deployment Image Servicing and Management

dism /Online /Cleanup-image /ScanHealth
dism /Online /Cleanup-image /CheckHealth
dism /Online /Cleanup-image /RestoreHealth
dism /Online /Cleanup-image /StartComponentCleanup
Sfc /ScanNow                                           # You do the SFC, after the DISM ones if any

Windows Command Prompt

Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase

Warning: All existing update packages can't be uninstalled after this
         command is completed, but this won't block the un-installation
         of future update packages.

*******

W11Home

DISM runs on this OS:  1      # Run for amusement, on lowest level which is a "check" only.
SFC runs on this OS:   0

Disk seems to be working OK.

399,000 files on C:
There is no C:\Windows\servicing\LCU on Windows 11, so no LCU to count.

W10Pro

572,000 files
C:\Windows\servicing\LCU on Windows 10  178,000 files (can be deleted)

It's also sunny outside today, but still a bit cold.

*******

You can do a Repair Install, to tart up the WinSxS files.

While you could do a backup and restore, in an attempt to "clean"
the C: file system, that's not going to be entirely successful.
If you had any $BADCLUS entries, those would likely be preserved in
the backup, which is not a desirable property. It's normally pretty
difficult to regress to the point that the OS registers those -- the
auto-sparing of the storage devices, normally "hides the health" of
the storage so $BADCLUS (a concept from long ago), does not trigger.

I did have one of those here, and it was a bitch to get rid of.

   Paul

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Feb 25 * Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues51Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Feb 25 +* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues18Paul
2 Feb 25 i+* Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Feb 25 ii+* Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)3Brian Gregory
2 Feb 25 iii+- Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1Chris Ahlstrom
8 Feb 25 iii`- Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Feb 25 ii+* Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)3Paul
2 Feb 25 iii+- Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1Java Jive
8 Feb 25 iii`- Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Feb 25 ii`* Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)2DFS
8 Feb 25 ii `- Re: The Dominance Of Linux (was Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Feb 25 i+* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues6Mark Lloyd
2 Feb 25 ii`* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues5Paul
3 Feb 25 ii `* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues4Java Jive
3 Feb 25 ii  +- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1rbowman
3 Feb 25 ii  `* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Jeff Barnett
3 Feb 25 ii   `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Java Jive
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Andy Burns
9 Feb 25 i `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Paul
2 Feb 25 +- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Physfitfreak
3 Feb 25 +* Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)2DFS
7 Feb 25 i`- Re: Onslaught of Linux kernel regressions (was Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Feb 25 +* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Feb 25 i +* Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)4vallor
8 Feb 25 i i+- Re: Kexec (and HyperV)1Paul
9 Feb 25 i i`* Re: Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Feb 25 i i `- Re: Kexec (and HyperV) (was: Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues)1vallor
9 Feb 25 i +* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Feb 25 i i`- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1vallor
9 Feb 25 i `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Paul
7 Feb 25 +* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues14Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Feb 25 i+* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues11Paul
8 Feb 25 ii+- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Paul
8 Feb 25 ii+* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues7Frank Slootweg
8 Feb 25 iii+* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Frank Slootweg
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8 Feb 25 iii`* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues4rbowman
8 Feb 25 iii `* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues3Frank Slootweg
8 Feb 25 iii  +- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Paul
9 Feb 25 iii  `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1rbowman
9 Feb 25 ii`* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Feb 25 ii `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1rbowman
18 Feb 25 i`* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Feb 25 i `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1rbowman
17 Mar 25 +* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Mar 25 i+* Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues2Frank Slootweg
18 Mar 25 ii`- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Paul
19 Mar 25 i`- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Paul
27 Mar 25 +- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 25 `- Re: Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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