Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control

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Sujet : Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control
De : ithinkiam (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 22. Mar 2025, 00:53:47
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Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
 
A Mac mini would be $1400.  What I could build for that is
unbelievable.  Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK.  I
think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first.
 
What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much?
 
I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be
more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather
than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux.
 
Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your
workload.
 
 
The point is that I should be able to afford a Mac mini that would
work for me,

Why?

but they price the upgrades so high that it just tells us
they're a high-end brand name, not actually better than any other OS.

That's not everyone's experience, but yeah Apple doesn't do cheap.

 
Note that WINE works on Arm Macs. No need for VMs if the you the software
works with WINE.
 
 
I retract my previous comment, the support for x86 Windows raw code by
Rosetta 2 is something I would theoretically value,

Not quite right. Rosetta 2 enables intel macos binaries to run on arm macos
through a one-time translation.

Not sure whether wine needs rosetta to work on arm macs.

although
outweighed by the real cost of a new Mac system (changing my imagined
setup from using a VM to Wine has less impact on the demand than one
might think).
 




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