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Sujet : Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control
De : snipeco.2 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 24. Mar 2025, 20:59:51
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Organisation : Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds
Message-ID : <1r9ptuo.6zis5d1v7ecznN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2025-03-24 09:39, Sn!pe wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
 
[I wrote]
I could give you my entire PC history from MS DOS 2.4 in 1984 via 'Doze
3.0 to NT4, then Mandrake Linux for several years before I saw the
light, put away my screwdrivers and switched to macOS 10.3 "Panther".
I've stuck with Macs ever since; they just *work*, you know?
>
I could go on but it would be even boring than the above.
>
>
I recall having a Mac running X.1.5 and then x.2 at a time when decent
browsers for that operating system didn't exist. It was Internet
Explorer or some independent browser whose name I can't remember.
Eventually, Apple released Safari and made things a little better. I
don't believe that even Firefox was around at the time. This was
definitely a period when the Mac didn't "just work."
>
 
I can't speak to that, I began with Macs at OS X 10.3 "Panther".
I had no difficulties with that at all.
 
I suppose you might equate Mac OS X 10.1 and 10.2 with
Windoze 1 and 2.  I imagine that you will remember what
early 'Doze was like. . .
 
What was early Linux like?
 
I started with 10.1.5, so I couldn't really tell you if earlier versions
were as slow as people claimed. However, on the machine I used, a g3
600MHz iBook, MacOS 9.2.2 was definitely a lot more fun to use than OS
X. It was too bad that it wasn't getting updates anymore. I just recall
struggling to find a browser which supported all of what most websites
used whether it was Java or some other technology. It was truly
miserable until Safari came out. I don't recall whether Firefox came out
before or after, but I was definitely not aware of its existence until I
moved back to PCs later.
 
As for early Linux, I can only tell you what it was like when I
installed Slackware through floppies at the very beginning. I only had
an old IBM PS/1 monitor to use it, so I couldn't get into the GUI at all
since I didn't know the vertical or horizontal refresh rates for that
piece of crap. When I went back to Linux around 1998, things were much
better but there was no built-in PPPoE software to connect to my ISP at
the time. If you didn't happen to have rp-pppoe lying around on a
floppy, you were screwed. I also recall that I found KDE a lot better
than the rest of the GUIs at the time, but I still found it fairly
clunky. Windows 95/98 wasn't great, but it was at least better than what
Linux was offering for environments. I mostly ignored Linux after that
since Windows 2000 and XP were stellar, though I vowed to only use Linux
once the first Ubuntu released. It was definitely better than every
other Linux available at the time, but it still didn't feel like a
complete replacement for Windows.
 
I imagine that you don't really care about the history I just wrote
about above, but it felt good to write about it. My biggest memory was
how open-source, AbiWord to be exact, saved my ass when I needed
something to write a university paper.
>

It was good to read about it, too.  It isn't as though I have anything
urgent scheduled for today... 

Anyway, I'm not here as an advocate for Apple; if it wasn't for laughing
boy being so haughty and superior about me using legacy software,
I probably wouldn't have posted.  Whatever, it's filled a few idle
moments so it's all good.

--
^Ï^.      Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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