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Sujet : Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!
De : nospam (at) *nospam* needed.invalid (Paul)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy alt.comp.os.windows-11
Date : 29. Mar 2025, 11:25:55
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On Sat, 3/29/2025 2:49 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 01:08:30 -0400, Paul wrote:
 
I don't know if the message is getting through yet,
but Windows has every feature Linux has. Why do you think they hired
7000 developers ?
 
Mainly to get in each other’s way, judging from their (lack of)
productivity.
 
Windows has System Read cache and System Write cache.
It has System Read cache in Win2K. System Write cache came later.
>
The System Read cache is like every other implementation.
 
Doesn’t seem to be. The usage of RAM in the cache seems to interfere with
regular applications’ use of RAM, in a way that doesn’t happen under
Linux.
 

It seems to be implemented as some sort of unified cache.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/file-caching

125516 MB      22.333757 sec     # Malloc test after a reboot
125405         34.227482         # Malloc after System Read Cache full (system read cache gets purged by this...)
125415         26.925629         # Subsequent runs of malloc64.exe, system read cache empty
125419         25.530308
125370         24.816107
125321         25.015528

There isn't zero overhead on the memory management.

*******

I did the same test on Linux.

The top command has columns like

TOTAL   FREE   USED    BUFF/CACHE

and the first quantity equals the sum of the other three.

This implies, at least from a book-keeping perspective, it
works the same as Windows.

The malloc.c code differs between the Windows and Linux versions,
in the time measurement code. Not in the malloc and memory filling parts.
And this is the result of testing on Linux.

120144 MB     43.035967 sec      # Malloc test after a reboot
120144 MB     43.139267 sec      # Malloc after System Read Cache full (system read cache gets purged by this...)

It's true that the behavior looks better, but... Linux is slower.

During compile, the same optimization level is used in both environments.

The reason the memory amount is lower, is the malloc-linux program
has to be stopped before the OOM-killer is triggered. The same code
on Windows, simply exits when the last malloc call fails to allocate
memory.

   Paul

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Mar 25 * How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!31Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Mar 25 +* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!3Paul
28 Mar 25 i+- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1pothead
9 Apr 25 i`- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1candycanearter07
28 Mar 25 +* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Mar 25 i+- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1vallor
28 Mar 25 i`- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Mar 25 `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!24Peter Johnson
28 Mar 25  `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!23Frank Slootweg
28 Mar 25   +* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!18Paul
28 Mar 25   i`* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!17Frank Slootweg
28 Mar 25   i +* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25   i i+* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!9Paul
29 Mar 25   i ii+* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25   i iii+* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!2Paul
30 Mar 25   i iiii`- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25   i iii`- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Frank Slootweg
29 Mar 25   i ii+- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Borax Man
29 Mar 25   i ii`* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!3vallor
29 Mar 25   i ii `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!2Paul
31 Mar 25   i ii  `- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25   i i`* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!2Frank Slootweg
30 Mar 25   i i `- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25   i `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!4Borax Man
29 Mar 25   i  `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!3Frank Slootweg
29 Mar 25   i   `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!2Borax Man
30 Mar 25   i    `- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Frank Slootweg
28 Mar 25   `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25    `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!3Frank Slootweg
29 Mar 25     `* Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25      `- Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time!1Frank Slootweg

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