Re: How To Improve This Group

On 2025-04-10, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> wrote:
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+1 and the worse part of Discord is closed source, they mine your data,
they sell your data, you need a phone number to subscribe in many cases
and the list goes on and on ... see any privacy forum and you will see.
there are other options:
- Revolt.chat  Is open source self hosted or you can use the developers
 official host, is a discord clone with out the privacy issues.
- Matrix Spaces (not matrix but Matrix Spaces) the best with e2ee
 encryption, voice/video chat(in beta the old one is not that great)
- of course good old IRC.
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Happy Hacking
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ReK2

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You are clearly living in the underground Internet, I live above
ground, with Linux as if it was Winblows, better than the real thing.
It's fun.
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I do not think is an option between above or underground but between,
open/decentralized vs closed/abusived/paywalls/centralized  the internet
is all above ground, is not that I'm suggesting to use TOR/i2p etc that
I can see how people can say is "underground" ;), 7 years a go people
will said the same about mastodon and the fediverse and there are
millions of people using it, yes like usenet is not a company so they
not going to bomb you with marketing, paid news on mass media, and paid
deviced/people using it on movies(yes apple and microsoft do pay movies
to show their stuff) etc but as usenet is having a comeback the internet
is changing back to normal(decentralized) yes of course you can not
expect the people that are not tech and use their phone(not an actual
real computer with a keyboard) to actually have any interest on
non-discord options but you will be surprised how fast things change
sometimes, when discord block russians 8 months a go or so revolt.chat
had a influx of thousands of users (not just russians, is because the
russians and their guild mates non-russians) all were forced to find
alternatives and revolt.chat is the best option for an open platform for
gamers. I myself prefer usenet/lemmy/forums but I do admit we have our
collective on Matrix spaces so we can watch movies/documentaries
together and I can help new people coming into computer security etc
live with out having to use discord/facechat/zoom and all those evil
platforms, and you will be surprised when people have an intereset how
they will actually install "element"(is the easiest one for them) to
join us to learn offensive security etc, and then they stay because they
like the platforms but I guess you are right people will not use this
"underground" since you called this way, platforms with out a good
motive first... heck Im happy that usenet is having a comeback can't
complaint, we got rid of google now we just need less trolls :D :D

PD: sorry for my English.

Best regards
Happy Hacking
ReK2