Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome

On 2025-04-27, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

Le 27-04-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit :

On 2025-04-26, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 10:09:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
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That is, they want to work on what they want to work on, rather than
what needs to be done.

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Or rather, they work on what they see as needs to be done.
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If you want them to work on what you see as needing to be done, by all
means hire them and pay them for it.

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If you have a hammer, every problem is a nail.
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The problem is you have software developers who think the solution is to
write more code.  Write another protocol.  Write a new framework.  Its
what they CAN do.

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Sometimes, when something is conceptually broken, the only way is to
start from scratch. That's what happened for Wayland. Nobody wanted to
fix the X11 issues. If you want the X11 issues being fixed instead of
the project being left alone, you have solutions. You can do the work
yourself. Or, you can pay developers to do the work for you.
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Its like IPv6.  It fixes the shortcomings of IPv4, but that transition
will happen slow (perhaps too slow), and IPv4 will go when its no longer
needed.

X11 *will* go one day, but tech companies do like to push change, force
it, regardless of whether customers ask or not.

When the "auto" keyword was added to C++11, it could have created a
problem for legacy code which used 'auto' in a different context.  The
committee checked a lot of code to see whether it would cause an issue
and determined it wouldn't break code.  This is how responsible adults
work.

Silicon Valley yahoos believe in "move fast and break things".