Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome

On Thu, 1 May 2025 14:24:24 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
wrote in <slrn101710o.2qk.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>:

On 2025-04-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2025-04-30 06:10, Borax Man wrote:

On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man
<rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote in
<slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>:
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On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote:

On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote:

On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
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I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps
did to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a
mess.

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You don't want to run 'df -a'.  I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap
stuff.

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It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system,
but I think I've got it all cleared now.
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There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of
it.
A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you.
Heck, it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search.

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If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just
happy to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions.
Ubuntu is not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It
was more in the line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't
particularly like is pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome
3.)

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I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of
Ubuntu's interface. However, I won't bother with it if the
contributors are proud members of Antifa.
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They are?  Thats a concern if true.
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I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist
organisation,
they fit the definition.

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That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an
organization.
It's a movement -- like skateboarding.
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And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a
boogieman; then you know where they stand.  For example:  Eisenhower
was "Antifa". Oooo, scary.
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The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know
it.
 
Its a movement, like drug cartels.
 
You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in
the name...

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As far as I know, fat vallor is from San Francisco. They see themselves
as heroes because they let their homeless create tent cities and take a
dump anywhere they want on the street. I'm sure all of India is a
heroic country to them. They're far left in their politics and will
gladly rewrite history to fit their beliefs.
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I'm Australian, things are different here, and many Americans have this
imperialistic, domanting mentality where they think the entire world
must adopt their values, their culture, their beliefs, their way of
thinking.  I don't hate America, but it irks me to see the American MAGA
movement copied here (look up Trumpet of Patriots for some cringe), and
it also irks me to see Californians, or American Coastal elites more
broadly, act as if they have moral authority to make us adopt their
rather parochial and extreme values.  Unfortunately, Australians follow.
 
It's sad that people like him don't realise that the REST OF THE WORLD
sees these city dwelling Californians as loopy.  They honestly believe
they represent socity and the world.  Its just...odd...  A delusion.
Perhaps only existing because Big Tech is there and they can throw their
weight around.  Who knows.

What we have here is a case of parataxic distortion -- that is to say,
stereotyping.

You know almost nothing about me.  You also know almost nothing about
"Crude Sausage" or RonB, either, and at least the former has no issue
with using racial slurs, something I find both extremist and uncalled-for.

The problem is extremism.  Unfortunately, politics are so polarized now
that it's difficult to have a meaningful dialogue.  Even in your invective,
you've written about protests in the same sentence as shoving the elderly,
the latter act which I find especially egregious.  But protests?
Those are a human right.  We've had at least two downtown since Trump
was elected.  I get police updates via email, and have seen no reports
of arrests, either there or in the local paper.

But when it comes to politics in cola, I would much rather keep
it apolitical and areligious.  This seems almost impossible, given
the discussions about (say) how "woke" the RC church was under
Pope Francis.  As I said:  the problem is extremism.

Regarding California:  there's a lot of propaganda floating
around.  There are farmers here, as well as business owners
for establishments of all sizes.  If you think California
is all one big college campus -- think again, it's not like
that, any more than you are like Crocodile Dundee.

We are pretty smart, though -- the envy of the rest of the U.S.
Maybe that's why they tell so many stories about us.  And
California just surpassed Japan as the 4th largest economy
in the world.  I'm co-founder of a business that employs
over 800 people, so I'm part of making that happen.

So with all that out of the way:  if you came across a
"Nazi" -- that is to say, a White Supremacist Nationalist -- who
was spouting his BS into your face, wouldn't you be tempted
to clock him, too?

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