Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them

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Sujet : Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them
De : sc (at) *nospam* fiat-linux.fr (Stéphane CARPENTIER)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 02. May 2025, 21:14:05
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Le 30-04-2025, Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> a écrit :
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 19:04:49 +0000
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The point was mostly that it annoys me when people make really bad
design decisions like the non-inversible ß -> SS transformation
(which keeps getting repeated whenever case-issues come up) and then
complain that for some inexplicable reason there are nasty repercussions
down the line. This stuff _could_ be really simple; it's almost as if
there's a lesson in there somewhere.

That's Linus' point: there is no god way to handle the issues with
everything that's not ASCII. He's not an English native speaker, so he
knows the issues with the diacritic characters. And when you put the
unicode in that, it's worse. You have to decide which is the same and
which is not and in which conditions.

As far as filesystems go, I personally don't have any strong feelings
about this either way, mostly because when I got into computers you
were lucky to have an ASCII equivalent. But I can tell from long
experience as a developer of an application for engineering types that
even those guys usually can't be bothered with case-sensitive
filenames, never mind the average Joe. Nerds might see this differently,
but the vast majority of computer users are not nerds, and in my
experience things like case-sensitive filenames are a constant source
of irritation and confusion for everybody else.

I remember trying to put a letter in uppercase in the name of an
existing file. I had to rename the file differently to be able rename it
back with the uppercase letter. That was very poorly handled by Windows.
Don't know how it is now.

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