Re: Be Minimal Or Be Square

Le 11-05-2025, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :

Check out the following article and consider how it may apply
to the "modern" GNU/Linux distro, i.e. systemd, GNOME, etc.
>
https://spectrum.ieee.org/lean-software-development

It's surprising, but this is interesting. I'm pretty sure you didn't
understood it.

Note: to avoid being besieged by all the javashit popups just
load the URL into links -g:
>
links -g https://spectrum.ieee.org/lean-software-development &

I had no popup reading it. How did you configure your browser? In fact,
it was a rhetorical question: as everything you do you, do it in a bad
way wondering why everything isn't fine.

In my learned opinion,

That's a good pun.

the do-it-all-for-the-user approach to
programming is a big part of the problem, and that's one big
reason (but most certainly not the only big reason) why I prefer
GNU/Linux.  I can easily build and configure my system to be
highly minimalistic.

Yes, you proved it already: it's so minimal it does nothing.

But as systemd, GNOME, etc. are revealing, the DIAFTU approach
is making much headway within GNU/Linux and this is not good
at all.

Of course, you didn't understood the link you provided. You could have
spoken of KDE instead. I don't know about KDE actually, but last time I
checked, if I wanted to use a KDE program, I had to download all KDE
dependencies, for unknown reason. That was more in the spirit of the
article. But for gnome and systemd, no I don't need that much
dependencies. You misunderstood the difference between bloated and
complete.

For systemd, it's not bloated, it just does a lot of things. Agreed,
some of the things done by systemd shouldn't be done by an init system.
But, the alternative:
- Don't provide any way to have some great things done by systemd. They
  just avoid them.
- As systemd launches everything, it's in the best place do follow the
  launched processes.

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