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On 12/25/24 4:55 PM, D wrote:You are talking about external countries and parties attacking, and the decentralized libertarian community not being able to defend itself?On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:>
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:27:27 +0100, D wrote:This is interesting! I am very much in favour of libertarian, and by extension _decentralization_ because of a lack of faith in mankind!
As a libertarian, my favourite argument against libertarianism, is thatLibertarians have a lot of faith in mankind that I don't share. Then there
it is very unstable, and very likely to be attacked from without, or
over time, to be converted into kingdoms with serfs.
is the problem that many of the libertarians I've know IRL tend to be
nutters.
Decentralization CAN be useful, but without some kind
of 'center' it seems to go very bad. Then we're back
to the old city-state wars again ...
This is the truth!I often criticize socialists for their unreasonable trust in some 100% fair human being, not being corrupted and turning their socialist utopia into an authoritarian nightmare.>
'Socialism' requires a lot of denial ...
You are a very mature man. People call me immature for not voting, I call myself principled. ;) My hope is that once I've convinced the world of not voting, the state will disintegrate naturally as people lose interest in it, and just plain stop paying their taxes. ;)Please tell me more about libertarians faith in man kind since that is so opposite my own position, yet, I do call myself a libertarian.>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Jones_(Libertarian_politician)I think as a libertarian, I cannot participate in political parties. Nietzsche warned against parties and saw them as a threat against democracy. I agree with him completely. I think libertarianism is not compatible with parties and trying to change the system from within. That will just lead to them becoming corrupted over time and diluted to some other form of ism.
At least he stood out and became a little less blueish over the years. The
Libertarian Party typically gets 3% of the vote but outdid itself this
year with 0.42% after nominating a pro-choice gay. The LP in this state
ignored him completely.
'Parties' suck - but I think *that* kind of civil war
still beats the real kind.
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