Re: The Tragedy Of systemd

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Sujet : Re: The Tragedy Of systemd
De : not (at) *nospam* telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
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Date : 08. Oct 2024, 22:39:16
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Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> wrote:
Is there anything else other then Systemd and InitV?

There are lots of 'em. OpenRC is another common default for
distros.

Here's a list, but not complete:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems

Also Busybox has a clone of SysV init, and OpenWrt has their own
"procd" system.

Now, I'll give everyone this, most people don't think about "Why Systemd
vs Why InitV" when they build their systems and if they don't have a
distro that gives them a choice then sure, they are going to choose
whatever their distro comes with (I hate distro's BTW. Build your own
source or go home is my take, but I digress).

Well I started taking Systemd with the distros, then I had to
actually change something with it and experienced the appalling
design, then I made the effort to switch everything back to SysVinit
(I found Devuan, with its separate package repos, far more reliable
than AntiX as a Systemd-free version of Debian). My reasons had
already been stated, and argued against, by others at that point.
No reason for me to go into them now.

I don't think it's a bad thing that we have 2 systems to choose from.
Each has it's place. Personally, I'd love to see at least 3 more options
but I don't think that will happen any time soon.

Systemd is an obscenely complicated way to do an init system, but
there's nothing about it that needs to be complicated. It does a
simple job at heart and new alternatives aren't hard to make (or
find).

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Oct 24 * The Tragedy Of systemd47Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Oct 24 `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd46Chris Ahlstrom
8 Oct 24  `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd45The Natural Philosopher
8 Oct 24   +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd23Phillip Frabott
8 Oct 24   i+* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd18Computer Nerd Kev
9 Oct 24   ii`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd17Phillip Frabott
9 Oct 24   ii +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Dan Espen
9 Oct 24   ii i`- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Phillip Frabott
9 Oct 24   ii `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd14Lars Poulsen
9 Oct 24   ii  +- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Phillip Frabott
9 Oct 24   ii  +- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Oct 24   ii  +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd9Marc Haber
9 Oct 24   ii  i+* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd6Richard Kettlewell
9 Oct 24   ii  ii`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd5The Natural Philosopher
10 Oct 24   ii  ii +- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Oct 24   ii  ii `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd3Richard Kettlewell
10 Oct 24   ii  ii  `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Marc Haber
11 Oct 24   ii  ii   `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Oct 24   ii  i`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Oct 24   ii  i `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Marc Haber
9 Oct 24   ii  `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Andy Burns
10 Oct 24   ii   `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Oct 24   i`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd4The Natural Philosopher
10 Oct 24   i +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Marc Haber
10 Oct 24   i i`- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Andy Burns
10 Oct 24   i `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Oct 24   +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Andy Burns
9 Oct 24   i`- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Oct 24   +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd11rbowman
9 Oct 24   i+* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Oct 24   ii+- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1186282@ud0s4.net
9 Oct 24   ii`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd6Nuno Silva
9 Oct 24   ii +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd4The Natural Philosopher
9 Oct 24   ii i+* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2D
10 Oct 24   ii ii`- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1The Natural Philosopher
10 Oct 24   ii i`- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Oct 24   ii `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Oct 24   i`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Phillip Frabott
9 Oct 24   i `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Oct 24   +- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Oct 24   +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd6Marc Haber
9 Oct 24   i`* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd5Phillip Frabott
10 Oct 24   i +* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Marc Haber
10 Oct 24   i i`- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Phillip Frabott
10 Oct 24   i `* Re: The Tragedy Of systemd2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Oct 24   i  `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Marc Haber
8 Oct 24   `- Re: The Tragedy Of systemd1Phillip Frabott

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