Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 12/12/24 11:56 PM, Rich wrote:

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

It is so strange.  Your program fails the most nr of people, and has
the most nr of people leave the program.  This is bad.  However...
when we look at if the students get jobs after their education, your
program has a 100% job ratio, and all of your students get salaries
above the average for their age group.  This is so strange!

 “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary
depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something

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 Wow ... he understood this SO far back !
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 But then there have been bureaucracies, and pointy-haired
 bosses, since antiquity ...
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This is why college success measures should be based upon how
employable their graduates are.  Gone (or seriously reduced in size)
would be all the degree programs that don't produce gainfully
employable graduates.
 Instead the measure is how much student loan money they can hoover out
of each student during the student's time on campus.  And by that
measure they are all resounding successes.

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 MONEY, rather than MERIT, has always been important - but
 I think it's become SO much the over-riding factor now
 that The Future is seriously endangered.
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 Read back to the early universities. MOST students were
 just fops, kids of Rich Guys. They were sent there for
 'prestige' reasons, NOT to actually LEARN anything.
 Indeed it was considered pedestrian for 'gentlemen' TO
 learn anything. We're talking 1300s/1400s here ... the
 pattern was set .......
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 As for the know-nothing kiddies getting high salaries ...
 maybe think of it in 'evolutionary' terms. They will
 destroy their employers, then move on and destroy even
 more employers. In the end, moronic employers will
 be selected-against  :-)

What's happening is that many companies are just not hiring from vocational schools any longer because the quality of the students is too low.
I sometimes hire from them, but _only_ when I have been the teacher. That allows me to pin point exactly who the passionate ones are, and those can be very powerful allies, at a low initial salary cost!
But if I would not be the teacher, I would never dare to do that, since Gen Z, and especially Gen Z from vocational schools are completely crazy in most cases.
Have a business partner who thinks exactly the same. He announced a linux sys admin job a few weeks back, and got 100 replies.
1/3 he threw away because those were indians without swedish knowledge. 1/3 were people about to retire who just want to wait until they are 65, and he wants someone long term, and not someone who disappear after 1 or 2 years, and 1/3 were from vocational schools, that he by default throws away. The search continues!