Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 07. Jan 2025, 02:17:12
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On 1/6/25 5:49 AM, D wrote:
  On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
 
On 2025-01-05, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
We have achienved something no other species has done. Science.
>
Someone once pointed out, though, that for all the great things
science can do, it can't make the sun shine brighter or the
rivers run faster.  If our consumption continues to increase,
sooner or later we'll hit the crunch.
 We can use things more effectively, we can build nuclear. In terms of power we have no problem out all. This is a solved problem and only requires political will.
   We ARE very wasteful - even with known-limited
   resources. There's mostly not enough money in
   're-cycling' to make it worth it (except in
   4th-world countries - oh reports are of a
   really good gold-recovery chemistry lately)
   How many neo magnets from old disk drives now
   reside in the bottom of landfills ? Most of
   those come from an ENEMY nation. I've seen pix
   of what Africans can do with waste plastics on
   a low budget (note, 4 parts sand to 1 part
   old jugs is best for construction bricks, found
   graphs somewhere). BUT, 1st world, the problems
   and regs and bureaucracy ruin it all. Can't get
   there from here.
   Nuke plants are good (I still like 'pebble bed' and
   apparently China is now into them). There's still a
   waste-disposal issue alas, what to do with stuff
   that's super-deadly for 99,000 years. Tectonics
   are too slow to just bag it and drop it in an
   ocean trench somewhere.
   "Better" is gonna require a SENSIBLE mix of energy
   technologies. No one thing can save us, but all
   COMBINED as best suited per-region can.
   And then there's the "expectations" issue ...
   eight BILLION all demanding a luxury 1st-
   world lifestyle they saw on TV. Even with
   better tech I just don't think that's gonna
   be possible for at least a century, maybe
   two or three. This causes DISCONTENT and
   lots of unpleasant POLITICS - followed by
   things on fire.
   And alas ... I don't see "AI" creating any kind
   of nirvana - more like rendering half the pop
   largely obsolete and crammed into horrible govt
   tenements until they rot and die .

Add to that the ability to plan long term, and there's nothing
to fear.
>
Given the scarcity of companies that can see past the next quarter,
I think there's quite a lot to fear.
 There are companies that are older than countries.
   Yea, but they mostly chose "bullet-proof" lines of biz.

We can even nudge asteroids out of the way, should it be necessary.
>
Or not.  See the Netflix movie _Don't Look Up_.
 Sorry, forgot that source of eternal truth.
   Don't think asteroid mining can make a profit, at
   least not until there's something beyond Newtonian
   propulsion - IF there's such a thing.
   If you wanna be useful with asteroids, divert a bunch
   of big icy ones towards a soft-crash into Mars. THEN
   we'd have a spare planet.

I'd argue, that we've actually far, far safer from changes in
climate and our surroundings than we have ever been before.
>
Well, the rich folk are, at least.
 You can become rich too! Remember the locust protein company we've been talking about. The idea is just sitting there for you to realize it! =D
   They re-named rapeseed oil and call MSG "natural
   flavor" and call Winders an operating system ... maybe
   they can de-locust powdered bug goop  :-)

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27 Dec 24  ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123The Natural Philosopher
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29 Dec 24  ii i  iii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC114TJ
30 Dec 24  ii i  iii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC111rbowman
30 Dec 24  ii i  iii i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
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31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Carlos E.R.
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31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
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31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
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29 Dec 24  ii i  ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
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28 Dec 24  ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
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27 Dec 24  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
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30 Dec 24  i ii ii`- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)1rbowman
30 Dec 24  i ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13D
31 Dec 24  i ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12186282@ud0s4.net
31 Dec 24  i ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  i ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
29 Dec 24  i ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lem Novantotto
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)5Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Carlos E.R.
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29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1845D
30 Dec 24  i i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1844D
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30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Computer Nerd Kev
31 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1841D
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1 Jan 25  i i   i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
1 Jan 25  i i   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1838D
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC128rbowman
1 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12D
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123The Natural Philosopher
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3 Jan 25  i i    ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC121186282@ud0s4.net
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Carlos E.R.
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3 Jan 25  i i    ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC117D
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27 Dec 24  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
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