Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On 11/26/24 4:12 AM, D wrote:

  On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

On 11/25/24 4:56 AM, D wrote:

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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On 11/24/24 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:35:57 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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Do kinda pref "{ }" or "begin end" over the dangling depth thing ...
get six or eight levels into something and it's a total bitch to spot
what's inside what without using comments.

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So use the comments. That’s what I do.

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 Only good way ...
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 Not a killer, but kinda annoying. The eye doesn't
 spot indents nearly was well as hard delimiters.
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You can have indents _and_ delimiters for the ultimate in eye spotting capability! ;)

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 As I said to Larry, I almost always use just 2-space
 indents so deeply-nested stuff doesn't tend to run
 off the page margin. Object langs make this even worse
 with all the something.something.something.something
 sorts of lines.
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 SOME of the IDEs for Python KINDA help, can spot
 nestings fairly well, but I mostly just use nano
 in one terminal and do test runs from another.
 Something like PyCharm or Visual are kinda overkill
 most of the time.
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 I use four, but since worked as a systems administrator (or what today be called "devops") I never wrote any programs large enough, or complicated enough, to run out of line space.

   My last big Python app was about 450 lines of code - and
   it had LOTS of option switches (TOO many!). Things got
   nested really deep sometimes.
   Shrank that to about 250 lines of Pascal (the re-think
   plus leaving out the options even I never used).

This is what I do not like about power shell. Some of the commands are way too long to type. I like ls, df, du & co! It would be horrible to have to type list_files every time.

   I kinda have to admit, or brag, that I never used PowerShell.
   But yea, shortish generally IS a lot better. Longish is
   one reason I hate JS, and then there was COBOL  :-)
   Haven't done a COBOL app for a long time ... I'll have
   to do something ... found a COBOL IDE of sorts somewhere ...
   ah, OpenCobolIDE (a PyPy pgm).