Re: "DeepSeek" - China AI App Shakes Up Tech Markets

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Date : 28. Jan 2025, 10:24:51
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:

Is it open source? Has anyone compared it fairly? Did china steal the teach and this got a cost advantage? Is it even true?
>
 It is, allegedly, open source.
Interesting! Then we will have the answers to a lot of questions in time. Note
also how china is trying to stunt the growth of US AI companies to stop them
from becoming too powerful.

So many questions!
>
 Seems they made it work with a lot fewer good chips
 than western developers imagined possible - which
 means some Different Thinking, different ways to
 leverage the hardware. This different thinking was
 why Japan shot to the top of the tech pyramid in
 the 80s ... brought 'perfection thru simplicity'
 to the clunky US/UK designs.
I guess they benefited by being late to the game, and could discard ways and
methods that were choosen in the US?

Regardless, readers of this newsgroup will not surprised when the AI bubble bursts.
>
 "AI" investment/expectations are decidedly a "bubble"
 at this point. It's gonna go bang. Trump wants to throw
 a lot more money at it, but it may just be throwing
 it into the incinerator. The right time for big govt
 investment would be AFTER the incipent crash, AI 2.0
 so to speak.
This is the truth! The AI hype drives technologies, which after the boom, find
their right uses. Image recognition, voice recognition, expert systems, genetic
algorithms for medical research... all common and based on the fallout from AI
hypes I'm sure. The game changer this time, or at least one of them, is the open
sourceing of the models, which enables people like you and me to play around
with them.

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