Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 10:09:11 +0100, D wrote:
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Don't even go there. Natural and I had very lively discussions on that
theme.  But yes, I'm in the camp of the people who accept the real world
as a fact, and that without humans, there's no ethics, math, true or
false.

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Buddhism has the concept of two truths, conventional and ultimate.
Conventionally I went out this morning to feed two cats. Ultimately 'cat'
is a construct I imposed and there aren't two of anything.
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https://thebuddhistcentre.com/system/files/groups/files/heart_sutra.pdf
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Nietzsche condensed into a couple of hundred Chinese ideograms...

Buddha seems to have been far ahead of his time. I really like his position on god, that instead of speculating, they should "shut up and meditate". ;)
On the other hand, I do not know if this is what he actually thought, or if it is just hearsay.
I tried for a bit, to try and "distill" original buddhism, and although it was difficult to find anything specific, my feeling was that original buddhism was more about doing, rather than speculating, so heavily meditation focused, and not very speculation focused.
Another thing I found out was also that original buddhism was heavily adapted to the individual (naturally) where buddha tried to tailor the techniques and teachings to the individual he was talking with, and that is why it started to diverge over the millennia.