Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, Rich wrote:

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

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On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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On 12/6/24 9:30 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On 2024-12-06, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:13:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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    Fedora still seems ok - as far as Fedora is OK. The
    Manjaro/Endeavour/Arch end is still OK. Never a fan of Slack, but,
    who knows ...... gotta keep evading suckitude.

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Slack was my first distro. Download in pieces and copy to about 40
floppies.

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When I decided to try Linux I went to the local bookstore and
browsed the Linux books, comparing all the ones that came with an
install CD.  I liked Patrick Volkerding's book best, so I wound up
starting out with Slackware 3.5.  I continued with it for several
years (and upgrades), but the lack of a package manager required
lots of application builds from source, which grew tiresome.

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 Slack IS very "raw".  There's some good, but a lot of bad, in that.
 You kinda have to be an OS fanatic ...
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 But I'm not 16 anymore.

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Thank you for the review.  Then it is not for me.  I don't mind
_some_ tinkering to improve things, but like you, I'm not 16 anymore
and I have a business to run, so this I will remove from the list of
my opensuse replacements.

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Don't take the word of our nymshift troll 100%.  Yes, Slackware is more
hands on than a full on "hold your hand, you are an idiot" distro such
as Ubuntu.  But it is a far cry better than it was back in the "50
floppies to install days".  A default install of slack 15, picking
"everything" gives you in most cases on normal hardware a working
useful system -- and if you leave KDE "on" in the list of "everything"
even gets you a "hold your hand, you are an idiot" desktop environment
too.
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Where Slackware is more 'raw' than a Unbuntu is that if you want to
modify, say, your default name search path or default name server, you
simply edit /etc/resolv.conf instead of launching whatever GUI
'configurator' it is that Ubuntu provides to poke at tabs and entries
to make the change.

Ohh... but that is not "raw" in my book. I do that myself on opensuse and I very seldom use yast. So basically, what you are saying is that it works like... "linux"? ;)
Maybe I should add slackware back to the list then, since what you are saying just sound exactly like how I like to manage my machines! =D

And for that one, the install script asks you for the details as part
of the install, so if you give the correct data at that time (same data
you'd poke into the Ubuntu GUI configurator) then you don't even need
to edit /etc/resolv.conf.
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There's an old quote that came about from the net long ago:
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Learn Ubuntu and you learn Ubuntu, learn Slackware and you learn Linux.

I'm happy I started as early with linux as I did. I teach the config file way to my students, and am furious when I learned that the teacher who got the job after me, taught the students how to manage linux with _only_ the GUI tools. Revolting! Also causing them to miss out a lot about how the system actually works, and how it was design to work. =(