Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing

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Sujet : Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing
De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
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Date : 25. Jan 2025, 18:34:35
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 25/01/2025 10:34, D wrote:
I am not convinced. I believe man is more good than bad. I also believe that the near-anarchy implosion is due to politics manipulating people into becoming enemies. Remove the puppet masters, and the puppets actually get along way better in their natural state, than anyone would ever want us to suspect.
Look, it all goes back to teh basic idea of land as property and not as the commons.
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Bunch of peasants cut down forest, plant crops, herd animals, bunch of hinter gatherers comes along and steals crops and takes cattle. All that hard work down the drain.
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Bunch of peasants have a meeting., Decide to grow food for a few guys who will train to be good and waving spears at hunter gathererss..
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Bad harvest, men with spears decide to steal from next door tribe.
Worse harvest, Men with spears decide to steal from OWN tribe. Justify by sating 'otherwise other tribe will do it and at least we are like you'
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I give you Russia today.
I give you western style democracy, after it has degenerated for a while.

 You see... by perpetrating the myth that men without leaders kill each other instantly, the leaders and the state benefits. It's their only justification. If people thought that, we're basically nice guys, the state would eventually wither away.
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So long as you have any sort of civilisation at all, you have to have organisation in which personal freedoms are sacrificed for the good of all, and some people with spears are paid to stop other people with spears taking over. . Its a delicate balance as to when the people say to the people with spears. You are such a bunch of total cunts, we will let the other lot take over'
This does not imply the government. It is also not binary. Contractarian ethics in the form of Jan Narveson does an excellent job outlining how people commit to not killing each other, while not deriving govermment from that initial contract.

Democracy is a 'civilised' way to achieve this without (too much) bloodshed...
I give you russia, US and western europe. Go civilization!

The communist dream of a society with no masters is only possible in a hunter gatherer type scenario. In fact the whole of Marxism is in the end a romantic yearning for the time when no on owned anything more complicated than a spear and a firestick.  Which is why that is generally the level to which people descend under full communism.
This is correct.
The idea of a society based on liberty and capitalism is however not a dream, but in fact a concrete and realistic way to structure society that will benefit everyone the most, globally, based on extrapolating from where we are today in a logical, spiritual and reasonable manner.

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