Re: The joy of Linux

On 11/14/24 9:16 AM, Rich wrote:

186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

On 11/13/24 3:57 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 13/11/2024 08:50, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

Most 60s cars used
    DRUM brakes, you got maybe two or three good
    apps before they'd fade.

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The thing about drum brakes is that they have slight but significant
innate brake assistance - the leading shoe tends to wedge itself on.

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   Yep - likely By Design.
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   BUT, the instant things get red hot - NO more brakes.
   Modern discs/pads ARE superior.

 Disks are superior, but don't think you can't make them fade with
over-application.  They too will fade if the rotors get hot enough.
The reason why they don't fade as easily is the design provides more
cooling, so it takes more braking application to achieve the same
'fade' level.

   VERY aware of that.
   They DO cool quicker however. BIG advantage.

I don't want to go back to unassisted brakes and no power steering
either.

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   "Unassisted" CAN be OK ... but it takes a little
   practice.
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   Had an early-60s car that DID have power steering,
   but I was too broke to replace the pump. THAT built
   up the arm muscles ! 384 replaced with a 426 ...
   massive power, needed a booster fuel pump !

 A proper 'manual steer' car is easier to drive than a power steering
car with the power steering disabled.  The gearing in the steering unit
is set differently for power assist units vs. true manual steer units,
and power assist, without the power assist, is much harder to steer.

   Oh, VERY aware of THAT ... the fucker was insanely
   difficult - took major effort.
   BUT, I could barely afford gas money back then ...

It is the same with power assist brakes.  The hydralic multiplication
factor is different between power assist master cylinders and true
manual cylinders.  The power assist brakes, without the power assist,
will require much more force on the pedal than a 'manual brake' system
requires to produce the same stopping power.

   I'd rather have un-powered steering than faulty
   power brakes. The systems were NOT set up to cope
   with unpowered brakes fer-sure. You'd have to
   weigh 400 pounds to get a good stop.