Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder

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De : rotflol2 (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Borax Man)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 07. Jul 2024, 11:28:35
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On 2024-07-06, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Sat, 6 Jul 2024, Borax Man wrote:
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In terms of other BSDs I think the most hardcore tech-focused as in "shut
up and code" might be OpenBSD. I doubt they've had many trans-battles
there due to their benevolent dictator for life setup.
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Too bad they have a crappy filesystems, otherwise Openbsd could be a nice
project to join as well.
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The problem is that these are the thin edge of the wedge.  Activists
insert these, so they can militantly enforce them.  The FreeBSD one
isn't too far from the Covenant Code.
...
People should have the right to think freely, and express themselves.  I
see no issue with a code that says "don't talk
politics/religion/sexuality in this technical forum", but increasingly
we are seeing organisations have conduct codes that *presume* certain
values and require everyone to adhere to those values.
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Yes, you make a good point. That's what I meant with my proof of the
pudding comment. As you say, looks fairly harmless on the surface, but
you can detect a leftist undercurrent and as you say, it can explode in
your face.
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As for OpenBSD I cannot find anything except perhaps this:
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Does OpenBSD has a Code Of Conduct?
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No and there is no known plan of having one.
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This is a topic upsetting OpenBSD people, just don’t ask about it and send patches.
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https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2018-03-16-openbsd-unofficial-faq.html
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Looks very promising! =)
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And also something here:
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https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg167105.html
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         I believe OpenBSD's code of conduct can be summed up as "if you are the
         type of person who needs a code of conduct to teach to you how to human
         then you are not welcome here".
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         At least I hope so.
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         Matthew
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     I always thought it could be summed up as "Don't piss off Theo".  ;-)
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... :)
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He's setting a standard. So I don't have to worry about talking freely
about what I think here. And that's just one reason why I try to
migrate my machines to OpenBSD ...
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And one of the first things I do when looking at software, and whether
it's useful for my needs or not: Are those who write it adults or are
they whinies with problems regarding understandable speech? I'm
trying to keep the latter mostly at safe distances from me, and I
tend to avoid their code getting installed onto my machines ...
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So that's another reason I'm glad Theo de Raadt is setting a certain
standard here ...
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Yes, thats the thing, these seem harmless, reasonable, nice.  But they
introduce a very different paradigm, the change seems subtle but it
isn't.  They are radically different to a code of conduct which just
says "keep religion out of our forums".  In a free society, we must
accept we work with people who disagree with us, who have views which we
don't support, and who may not approve of our lifestyle.

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4 Jul 24 * Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder62Borax Man
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